Army cant win in Afghanistan w/out reinforcements, says co

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  1. Army can't win in Afghanistan without reinforcements, says commander

    The commander of British forces in Helmand has said troop numbers in Afghanistan must increase in order to contain the surge in violence.

    By Chris Irvine
    Last Updated: 8:17AM BST 22 Aug 2008

    Brigadier Mark Carleton-Smith (right) speaks to Gordon Brown during his visit to Helmand province in Afghanistan Photo: PA
    Brigadier Mark Carleton-Smith, the commander of 16 Air Assault Brigade, estimated it would be up to five years before Britain could consider withdrawing troops.

    He said: "We are probably still on a growth trajectory before we get to the stage when the UK presence can begin to thin out."

    Senior military officers have reportedly held talks to increase British troops in Afghanistan from 8,000 to 12,000, a large increase on the initial 3,300 estimation when the UK force took over Helmand in 2006.
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  2. Op Banner took 30 years, and even then wasn´t finished.

    5 years a little short me thinks.
  3. He does sound awfully "on message" doesn't he?

    Isn't this the same chap who declared the Taliban leaderless and hopelessly disorganised a few weeks ago?
  4. very very sharp and switched on cookie that one.....
  5. I'd promote him or give him an OBE or similar
  6. Maybe if we release all Taliban prisoners and pay their leader large sums of cash and ignore any minor crimes they commit (like the largest bank robbery in the countrys history and even murder).
    We can all pull out and claim peace in our time.
  7. What is needed is a surge similar to Iraq however it must take place over the whole of the country (not just Helmand) otherwise the armed elements will just just move from region to region.
  8. More like the surge the US had over Nagasaki and Hiroshima, but more country wide.
  9. Schaden

    Schaden LE Book Reviewer

    More like come home and hope politicians stop having these silly ideas of military grandeur on a shoestring, chicken wire, black tape and boundless optimism budget.
  10. Well thank gawd he is in charge. We'd all be lost without his vision, understanding and complete grasp of the situation. Welcome to Afghanistan Brig!!

  11. My bold

    Due to defense cuts there is no black tape, even though experts have stated that extra rolls of black tape are urgently required in theatre, without which the army will collapse.

    Seemingly only red tape is available, in abundance.
  12. Actually, you will find that the switch to red tape was born from a liberal idea that the term black tape was found to be politically incorrect. As such all references in MOD publications to the term Black Tape have beed removed and Red Tape inserted in its place. Apparently this has somehow bogged the system to a crawl and nothing remotely productive will be authorized in the Afghan AO for some years to come.

    A spokesperson from the Liberal Lobbiest Group of the Women's Minority Lesbian Handicapped Association for the Newly Immigrated to Great Britain, claimed this as the first in a series of important milestones for the organization.
  13. I've heard of them, think one works down the local ACIO