Army Air Corps Question

#1
If i join the army as a ground crew can i progress as a pilot in time, if so how do you do it and what is the chances of this happening.
 
#3
Chances will depend on whether you can pass the various tests and whether your paperwork gets lost, or not(depending if things have changed over the years).
 
#4
I was with the AAC long before it was recognised in 1974, that's when i rebadged. Back then you could apply for pilot after 3 years service, and you had to attain rank in that time. best to send an email to www.armyavaition.co.uk
 
#5
I think you need to be Cpl or LCpl reccomended for Cpl, under a certain age - can't remember what it is.

AAC job thingy

The AAC operates a career development programme which gives soldiers the training and education they need to take on more responsibility and achieve promotion early. Further opportunities allow for soldiers to apply for rear crewman training, which would see them operating the door gun, assisting in casualty evacuation and operating a winch. On promotion to Lance Corporal and with recommendations for Corporal individuals can apply for pilot training, and will be encouraged to do so. No formal academic qualifications are required for this; individuals have to pass the selection and interviews process, medical examinations, aptitude and flying grading training.

You can also apply for pilot selection from other Corps and Regts in the Army.
 
#6
In 1957 the Glider Pilot and Parachute Corps was renamed to The Parachute Regiment, while the Glider Pilot Regiment and the Air Observation Squadrons amalgamated into a new unit, the Army Air Corps.[8]

From 1970, nearly every army brigade had at least one Aviation Squadron that usually numbered twelve aircraft. The main rotor aircraft during the 1970s were the Westland Scout and Bell Sioux general purpose helicopters. Their power though was soon bolstered by the introduction of the Westland Lynx helicopter in 1977 as well as the unarmed Westland Gazelle.

Basic rotary flying training was carried out on the Bell Sioux in the 1970s, the Westland Gazelle in the 1980s and 1990s and is currently conducted on the Eurocopter AS350 Squirrel.

Fixed-wing types in AAC service have included the Auster AOP.6 and AOP.9 and DHC-2 Beaver AL.1 in the observation and liaison roles. Since 1989, the AAC have operated a number of Britten-Norman Islander and Defender aircraft for surveillance and light transport duties. The corps operated the DHC-1 Chipmunk T.10 in the training role until its replacement by the Slingsby T-67 Firefly in the 1990s.

A further boost in the Army Air Corps' capability came in the form of the Westland Apache AH.1 attack helicopter. In 2006, British Apaches deployed to Afghanistan as part of the NATO International Security Assistance Force.

In July 2007 an order was placed for four Beechcraft King Air 350ERs (service designation Shadow R.1) for use in the surveillance role in Afghanistan, the type being much more capable than the Islanders currently used. These will be operated by the RAF not the AAC, this is due to issues of who operate pressurized and non-pressurized airframes
 
#7
In 1957 the Glider Pilot and Parachute Corps was renamed to The Parachute Regiment, while the Glider Pilot Regiment and the Air Observation Squadrons amalgamated into a new unit, the Army Air Corps.[8]

From 1970, nearly every army brigade had at least one Aviation Squadron that usually numbered twelve aircraft. The main rotor aircraft during the 1970s were the Westland Scout and Bell Sioux general purpose helicopters. Their power though was soon bolstered by the introduction of the Westland Lynx helicopter in 1977 as well as the unarmed Westland Gazelle.

Basic rotary flying training was carried out on the Bell Sioux in the 1970s, the Westland Gazelle in the 1980s and 1990s and is currently conducted on the Eurocopter AS350 Squirrel.

Fixed-wing types in AAC service have included the Auster AOP.6 and AOP.9 and DHC-2 Beaver AL.1 in the observation and liaison roles. Since 1989, the AAC have operated a number of Britten-Norman Islander and Defender aircraft for surveillance and light transport duties. The corps operated the DHC-1 Chipmunk T.10 in the training role until its replacement by the Slingsby T-67 Firefly in the 1990s.

A further boost in the Army Air Corps' capability came in the form of the Westland Apache AH.1 attack helicopter. In 2006, British Apaches deployed to Afghanistan as part of the NATO International Security Assistance Force.

In July 2007 an order was placed for four Beechcraft King Air 350ERs (service designation Shadow R.1) for use in the surveillance role in Afghanistan, the type being much more capable than the Islanders currently used. These will be operated by the RAF not the AAC, this is due to issues of who operate pressurized and non-pressurized airframes
Did you read the OP or just see AAC and wikicopy&paste?
 
#9
Now then tit.

Read the opening message (not 'opening pessage' LMAFO) and thought the youngster might like some background. All my own work thanks very much. 0 out.
Army Air Corps (United Kingdom) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Really?

Wiki said:
The present Army Air Corps

In 1957 the Glider Pilot and Parachute Corps was renamed to The Parachute Regiment, while the Glider Pilot Regiment and the Air Observation Squadrons amalgamated into a new unit, the Army Air Corps.[8]

From 1970, nearly every army brigade had at least one Aviation Squadron that usually numbered twelve aircraft. The main rotor aircraft during the 1970s were the Westland Scout and Bell Sioux general purpose helicopters. Their power though was soon bolstered by the introduction of the Westland Lynx helicopter in 1977 as well as the unarmed Westland Gazelle.

Basic rotary flying training was carried out on the Bell Sioux in the 1970s, the Westland Gazelle in the 1980s and 1990s and is currently conducted on the Eurocopter AS350 Squirrel.

Fixed-wing types in AAC service have included the Auster AOP.6 and AOP.9 and DHC-2 Beaver AL.1 in the observation and liaison roles. Since 1989, the AAC have operated a number of Britten-Norman Islander and Defender aircraft for surveillance and light transport duties. The corps operated the DHC-1 Chipmunk T.10 in the training role until its replacement by the Slingsby T-67 Firefly in the 1990s.

A further boost in the Army Air Corps' capability came in the form of the Westland Apache AH.1 attack helicopter. In 2006, British Apaches deployed to Afghanistan as part of the NATO International Security Assistance Force.

In July 2007 an order was placed for four Beechcraft King Air 350ERs (service designation Shadow R.1) for use in the surveillance role in Afghanistan, the type being much more capable than the Islanders currently used. These will be operated by the RAF not the AAC, this is due to issues of who operate pressurized and non-pressurized airframes
 
#12
Maybe Wiki is at fault for plagarism..........it might of copied fridge magnets work???? You could sue Wiki for millions fridge magnet.

As said above go in as ground crew if you want or any other Corp if you wish if reccomended by your CofC and be a Cpl or reccomended for promotion to Cpl and be under 30 prior to training. After successfully passing your aptitude tests and medicals you will do a 14 month pilots course then be selected to the specific aircraft training.

Extremely hard course to be reccomended for and then to pass
 
#13
Fridge magnet, you lying chav cnut.

Do us a favour and stay away.

Well done on irritating so many people across the site, quite an accomplishment considering your competition.

I forgot to add........... C0ck!

Returning back to the topic, there are plenty of current serving pilots on the boards who joined as Toms, ascended the ranks both in the Army Air Corps and in other, less handsome units. Amongst them you will find some honest answers, be sure when you ask them how upto date their info is, as some of the crusty old cnuts like Cloudbuster did his pilots course just after Icarus stuffed in.
 
#14
Stephen, don't join the Army just to be a pilot as you will have to wait a good while before you're eligible. Join the Army to be in the Army - enjoy the experience and have a good look around before you decide which way to go. Should you decide that you fancy a crack at pilot then there should plenty of information available to you - you'll have to find it though, and if you can't do that then you're going to fall very early on the flying course itself.

I can't give you much detail on the current selection process as the top student on my course was Pontius!

Good Luck
 
#15
Firstly join the army and choose a branch that you think will give you the most satisfaction (fun). It doesn’t matter who you join as you have as much chance as applying for pilot training in any other part of the army as the AAC itself.

Once you are in either get an ArmyNet or DII account and then go onto the Army Electronic Library (AEL), go to:

AGAI Vol 2, Chapter 043 – Officers & Soldiers Service with Specialist Arms and Services.

Part 4 Army Air Corps Selection, Training and Employment of Army Pilots.

Eligibility for Pilot Training Para 43.086 Soldiers
There you will find that you will:

Normally have to start Pilot Training before your 30th birthday.

Be a minimum rank of LCpl qualified and recommended for promotion to Cpl.

Extend or agree to extend to a minimum of 6 years of residual service on completion of the pilots course.

Are not in a category restricted from applying (protected or deficiency employment)
Ensure your medical standards adhere to the PULHEEMS Administrative Pamphlet (PAP) Table 3.
If you meet the criteria, complete the application form (Annex J) (also completed by your CO & MO) and then it is a mere matter of passing the:

Interviews

Aptitude tests

Flying Grading

Army pilots Course

Conversion to Type
And Bobs your aunties husband ^_^

Or just join as an officer pilot as it’s much easier ^_~
 
#16
Thanks all of you for replying back.
got a bit more information to give, the reasons i don't want to apply as a officer.
Firstly, i dont think my qualifications are good enough:
My school GCSE results were:
English - C
Maths -C
Core Science - C
Additional Science - C
History - C
ICT - A
ECDL - B
D&T technology - C
If i'm right i meet the 35 ALIS points required

My predicted college grades are:
BTEC National Diploma in ICT - MMM (i think its equivalent to 3 A-Levels)
Are my grades good enough to be accepted into the army as a Officer pilot

Secondly, is my personality i'm quite a shy person with people i don't know and you can't have a shy officer can you.
 
#17
Thanks all of you for replying back.
got a bit more information to give, the reasons i don't want to apply as a officer.
Firstly, i dont think my qualifications are good enough:
My school GCSE results were:
English - C
Maths -C
Core Science - C
Additional Science - C
History - C
ICT - A
ECDL - B
D&T technology - C
If i'm right i meet the 35 ALIS points required

My predicted college grades are:
BTEC National Diploma in ICT - MMM (i think its equivalent to 3 A-Levels)
Are my grades good enough to be accepted into the army as a Officer pilot

Secondly, is my personality i'm quite a shy person with people i don't know and you can't have a shy officer can you.
Correct not enough UCAS and ALIS points there to go officer..............as per my post which Im sure CARRPS was copying over my shoulder go any job you want and then in four years time look at seeing if you meet the requirements to go pilot then...come and speak to us in your local ACIO and theres plenty of opportunity to see how you can develop....getting on a Insight course would be a good idea once youve started an application....speak to the ACIO for advice
 
#18
as per my post which Im sure CARRPS was copying over my shoulder
Damn caught again :-D

He could always go AAC and apply to attend the Aviation Rear Crewmans course as an senior AirTpr (selected for LCpl) to get a taste, he could then subsequently apply for Pilot Trg
 
#19
Damn caught again :-D

He could always go AAC and apply to attend the Aviation Rear Crewmans course as an senior AirTpr (selected for LCpl) to get a taste, he could then subsequently apply for Pilot Trg
What are the current crossover stats for crewman to full brevet? I never thought that they were very impressive, all things considered.
 
#20
What are the current crossover stats for crewman to full brevet? I never thought that they were very impressive, all things considered.
I haven’t got stats, however, from my limited experience it would seem that a very large number of SNCO pilots (that I have met) started their lives elsewhere. Rear Crew (ADG) seems to be a little diversion before a groundie goes on to concentrate on progression in his day job, however, this may change now it is a recognised trade with a recognised career pyramid.

So I wouldn’t disagree with your assessment.
 
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