Army Air Corp Pilots (NCO)

#1
Hi-

I'd really appreciate it if you guys could give me some advice.

I want to be an army helicopter pilot.
I'm 30 so it seems that the only option open to me is to join as an Army Air Corp soldier and then try to advance onto pilot training.
I already have a private helicopter pilot's licence (JAA) so that might help my case.

I don't mind having to join up and spend 2 years or so as a regular soldier before going on to pilot training but I obviously my fear is that I'd join up and never get into the pilot training.
I'd like to join the army but my main goal in life is to fly so if I can't do it through the army I'll stick with going the civvy route.

Any advice / info would be brilliant?
Are there only very few that go from being Air Corp Soldiers to being pilots?
Would army recruitment be likely to mislead me slightly just to get a new recruit in?
I.e. would they let on that I had a really good chance to get on to being a pilot even though the chances were slim?

Please give me all the info that you can.

-Cheers...
 
#3
Your a bit long in the tooth mate, I dont think you could do it as I believe the age limit is 31, what types are you current on, one of my friends flys for Bond on contract to the RN and he is knocking on a bit
 
#5
Wait for some of the serving Corps members and current aircrew to post before listening to blokes who are 30 years out of date.

I left 14 years ago so there is little point in me giving you any input.

Any probs with who to probe, drop me a PM
 
#6
Porridge_gun said:
Wait for some of the serving Corps members and current aircrew to post before listening to blokes who are 30 years out of date.

I left 14 years ago so there is little point in me giving you any input.

Any probs with who to probe, drop me a PM[/quo

The qualifercations for pilot training have not changed in years, you normally have to be a Cpl under thirty with a COs recomendation, and this chap will not have the time to make the rank before being to old.
 

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#8
I thought that the age had extended to 32, but may be wrong. I know it's been a little bit "flexible" in a few cases for extenuating circumstances i.e. joined late. AGAI's currently states:

43.086. Soldiers. Soldiers may volunteer for pilot training provided that they:

a. Are normally able to start the Army Pilots Course before their 30th birthday.

b. Hold as a minimum, the rank of Lance Corporal or equivalent and are qualified and recommended for promotion to Corporal before starting the course.

c. Will have extended, or agreed to extend, service to ensure a minimum of 6 years residual service on completion of the Pilots course. Exceptions to this may be authorized by AAC MCM Wing.

d. Are not in categories which are restricted from applying for flying training (e.g. protected or deficiency employments as specified by DM(A)). This general condition may be waived at the discretion of the relevant MS Branch with the authority of DM(A).
As you're already 30 and not even in yet, you've well and truly missed the boat on this one.

Sorry and all that.
 
#9
52niagra said:
It`s not just the ability to pilot a heli. You need to do about twenty things at once.
I served with a guy who failed Grading about two years before I did :oops: who achieved, in his own time, his Rotary wing PPL, but then managed to balls it all up on the fixed wing Chipmunk T10's :D
 
#10
Left a couple of years ago, so not that current.

couple of points:-

1. A Mil Pilot is a totally different job to a Civ Pilot.
2. Being a Pilot is not a guaranteed pass.
3. The AAC is full of very capable Air troopers many wanting to go Flying so you will face some very stiff opposition for a small number of seats.

As others have said you have probably missed the boat and I'd suggest that if you can you keep going for the civvy option. Things are slowly improving.
 
#11
tropper66 said:
Porridge_gun said:
Wait for some of the serving Corps members and current aircrew to post before listening to blokes who are 30 years out of date.

I left 14 years ago so there is little point in me giving you any input.

Any probs with who to probe, drop me a PM[/quo

The qualifercations for pilot training have not changed in years, you normally have to be a Cpl under thirty with a COs recomendation, and this chap will not have the time to make the rank before being to old.
Hence the previous about waiting to hear from someone who knows what the qualifercations (sic.) actually are

You need to be a LCpl with a recommendation for promotion to full Cpl.

But thats not the point - you are, as has been stated, too old I'm afraid - given the time it will take for basic trg, 3-4 years (if you are v lucky) to get to rank, then get loaded you will be older than a pair of Lord Flash's flying gloves. But probably less smelly...

Its all about getting a return of service from the rather pricey training...
 
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#12
Porridge_gun said:
Wait for some of the serving Corps members and current aircrew to post before listening to blokes who are 30 years out of date.

I left 14 years ago so there is little point in me giving you any input.

Any probs with who to probe, drop me a PM
But you were Sigs scum weren't you? :D
 
#14
tropper66 said:
The qualifercations for pilot training have not changed in years, you normally have to be a Cpl under thirty with a COs recomendation, and this chap will not have the time to make the rank before being to old.
Great if he was applying to be a Sioux pilot but in this century, you are wrong.



pomistea, as superfrog has alluded to, I'm afraid you're too old. By the time you've actually joined the AAC and appear in a Regt as a trained soldier (we aint recruiting at the moment cos we're full), you'll at best be 32. Even if you are the best thing since sliced bread (sorry but a few hours in a Robbo out of Redhill isn't a free ticket) and get fast tracked, you will be older than my flying gloves. We can be reasonably flexible on age but its supply and demand. We have a plentiful supply at present so wouldnt be willing to take an OAP. Sorry to break the bad news to you but I think its only fair you know the score early on from someone who is still serving (as is the Steven Fry look-e-likey; superfrog)

Do not under any circumstances believe a recruiter who tells you you can be a pilot within 2 years and even better because you already having a PPL(H)!
 
#15
The-Lord-Flasheart said:
tropper66 said:
The qualifercations for pilot training have not changed in years, you normally have to be a Cpl under thirty with a COs recomendation, and this chap will not have the time to make the rank before being to old.
Great if he was applying to be a Sioux pilot but in this century, you are wrong.
Tropper, from the horses mouth from a current serving AAC badge.

Whilst am sure you are attempting to he helpful, do us a favour and think before pressing submit, and if you are in doubt, don't bother and put your lips in the toaster.
 
#16
Porridge_gun said:
The-Lord-Flasheart said:
tropper66 said:
The qualifercations for pilot training have not changed in years, you normally have to be a Cpl under thirty with a COs recomendation, and this chap will not have the time to make the rank before being to old.
Great if he was applying to be a Sioux pilot but in this century, you are wrong.
Tropper, from the horses mouth from a current serving AAC badge.

Whilst am sure you are attempting to he helpful, do us a favour and think before pressing submit, and if you are in doubt, don't bother and put your lips in the toaster.
A you f**ing thick or what, I told the bloke he was to old, your another one who should read my sig bloke
 
#17
Porridge_gun said:
The-Lord-Flasheart said:
tropper66 said:
The qualifercations for pilot training have not changed in years, you normally have to be a Cpl under thirty with a COs recomendation, and this chap will not have the time to make the rank before being to old.
Great if he was applying to be a Sioux pilot but in this century, you are wrong.
Tropper, from the horses mouth from a current serving AAC badge.

Whilst am sure you are attempting to he helpful, do us a favour and think before pressing submit, and if you are in doubt, don't bother and put your lips in the toaster.
Ar you f**ing thick or what, I told the bloke he was to old, your another one who should read my sig block
 
#18
You told him he was too old, but when a blokes potential careers are influenced you are asked to keep your two shedding beak out. There are plenty of current serving chaps around to offer up to date and accurate advice without having to resort to responses from those who holiday in Elevenarife.

Are you bright enough to appreciate, understand and respect that?

If not I'll simply edit everything you post in my forum to something that suits you.
 
#19
tropper66 said:
Ar you f**ing thick or what, I told the bloke he was to old, your another one who should read my sig block
Whether or not you are right or wrong, leave recruiting advice up to those that serve with a particular capbadge, or those that are current. You are neither.

Bad advice can seriously screw up someone's career plans.
 
#20
tropper66 said:
A you f**ing thick or what, I told the bloke he was to old, your another one who should read my sig bloke
Its not exactly rocket science to tell the bloke he's too old, you bumbling oaf. The internet is great for people who have a tiny bit of knowledge but in your case, you seem to be the sort who knows everything about everything. The thread starter was after up to date information from currently serving types not some bag wearing walt 'aircrew' type who once sat in the back of an Auster and has 'Spotter Fuckwits Monthly' on subscription. Stow your tits, lofty.
 
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