Armoured cavalry crewman

So I am interested in joining the RAC as a Armoured cavalry crewman in the HCR. On the army website it has an informative pdf for the HCR on what you can specialise in once joined {paratrooper, dismounted surveillance, sniper, etc). Now I am wondering if a regiment such as the The royal lancers have the same options for specialisations? (excluding paratrooper and horsey related roles)
 

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As far as I know, the HCR are the only Regts in the RAC that actually do mounted duty.
But every other Regt, would probably let you jump out of a perfectly serviceable aircraft, if that rocks your boat.
 
Just to add, the RAC today, has very loosely returned to the traditional roles that Cavalry units undertook. ie, Light Cavalry the Reconnaissance role. While Heavy Cavalry along with the Royal Tank Regt are the Heavy Armoured Regts ie Challenger 2 main battle tank.
All Regts encourage young Troopers to better themselfs, specially training Snipers/marksman dismounted surveillance are all part of Reconnaissance Regts and Reccie Sections in Heavy units.
 
Just to add, the RAC today, has very loosely returned to the traditional roles that Cavalry units undertook. ie, Light Cavalry the Reconnaissance role. While Heavy Cavalry along with the Royal Tank Regt are the Heavy Armoured Regts ie Challenger 2 main battle tank.
All Regts encourage young Troopers to better themselfs, specially training Snipers/marksman dismounted surveillance are all part of Reconnaissance Regts and Reccie Sections in Heavy units.
Challenger units are now RTR, QRH and KRH. The latter two are traditionally light cavalry. Units that were traditionally heavy cavalry, like QDG, RDG seem to be getting ever lighter.
From what I can gather, QRH in particular have spent a lot of time training as dismounts in recent years.
 
OK, no probs, I stand corrected. Shows how much a Tankie knows about Donkey Whallopers :eek:
Where's @AlienFTM when you need him!
Well, @LlyodousMaximus gets the idea, there's lots of alternatives he can get into joining a RAC Regt.
 
If you like the idea of red trousers, KRH. If a green hat appeals, QRH. Black coveralls, RTR. Simple choice, really:-D.
 

AlienFTM

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QRH and KRH are Hussars and therefore traditionally light cavalry. QDG have so steadfastly refused to amalgamate time after time they should consider themselves lucky still to exist.

Regimental identities mean nothing. Since the cuts of the last 20 years, regiments are what they were when the Arms Plot merry-go-round stopped turning and suck it up.

Light Cavalry, it seems to me, is a way to retain RAC cap badges without having any tanks.

My guess for the next cull of an RAC regiment (to eight) will be to remove one of the three roles and have four regiments in each. But we won't need any more tanks because they're all stowed somewhere safe because "we're never going to need them".

But, being Light Dragoons Association and reading journals and quarterly updates, I think Light Cavalry work very hard, have a lot of fun and go to more exotic places than anyone else.
 
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Tar very much for all the replies very helpful.
One last Q how do the roles differ between armored and light cavalry? Is Light more recce focused while armored relies more on the vehicles?
 

AlienFTM

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I doubt there's anyone not still serving who can answer that. I believe armoured to be like armoured recce when I was in, tracked and vehicle based, whereas light is wheeled, long range and seems to be something akin to LRDG. But light is still new and the LD only started out defining the role a handful of years ago. I'm sure it's moved on apace since QDG and Scots DG joined them.
 
Challenger units are now RTR, QRH and KRH. The latter two are traditionally light cavalry. Units that were traditionally heavy cavalry, like QDG, RDG seem to be getting ever lighter.
From what I can gather, QRH in particular have spent a lot of time training as dismounts in recent years.

this seems to have been true of a few regiments (Scots DG & HCR as well) over the last few years. whats the main reason behind this?

lack of vehicles? lack of infantry for Iraq/Afghanistan a few years ago? did they just want to get on tour and there was little or no armour required?

or am i just misinformed and actually cavalry regiments were always full of snipers?
 
this seems to have been true of a few regiments (Scots DG & HCR as well) over the last few years. whats the main reason behind this?

lack of vehicles? lack of infantry for Iraq/Afghanistan a few years ago? did they just want to get on tour and there was little or no armour required?

or am i just misinformed and actually cavalry regiments were always full of snipers?
Dunno about the snipers. GPMG coax is fairly accurate.
It’s probably a mix of the above. Armoured units have been steadily eroded over the years.
A cynic might say that the more varied roles a CO puts his unit forward for the more they demonstrate their value and the less likely they get the chop come the next budget round.
 

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this seems to have been true of a few regiments (Scots DG & HCR as well) over the last few years. whats the main reason behind this?

lack of vehicles? lack of infantry for Iraq/Afghanistan a few years ago? did they just want to get on tour and there was little or no armour required?

or am i just misinformed and actually cavalry regiments were always full of snipers?
The way I see it, not so much lack of vehicles or infantry, but more akin to reverse rolling.
I see them as a modern take on the roles done by the Australian Light Horsemen or even the post Civil war US Cavalry.
Both were mounted infantry, but in this guise light recce/trouble shooting, but with the added bonus of carrying weapons with a punch. And being on relatively fast mounts, have the ability to redeploy to where ever required rapidly.
No doubt, this old twat will be proved wrong.... :slow:
 

AlienFTM

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The way I see it, not so much lack of vehicles or infantry, but more akin to reverse rolling.
I see them as a modern take on the roles done by the Australian Light Horsemen or even the post Civil war US Cavalry.
Both were mounted infantry, but in this guise light recce/trouble shooting, but with the added bonus of carrying weapons with a punch. And being on relatively fast mounts, have the ability to redeploy to where ever required rapidly.
No doubt, this old twat will be proved wrong.... :slow:
My thoughts entirely. At least light cav have their vehicles, unlike MBT who only see them for ranges, ex, etc.
 
The way I see it, not so much lack of vehicles or infantry, but more akin to reverse rolling.
I see them as a modern take on the roles done by the Australian Light Horsemen or even the post Civil war US Cavalry.
Both were mounted infantry, but in this guise light recce/trouble shooting, but with the added bonus of carrying weapons with a punch. And being on relatively fast mounts, have the ability to redeploy to where ever required rapidly.
No doubt, this old twat will be proved wrong.... :slow:

i know what you mean but then i see infantry units kicking about in jackal and foxhound looking like they're doing exactly the same thing and i wonder which one is which
 

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Tar very much for all the replies very helpful.
One last Q how do the roles differ between armored and light cavalry? Is Light more recce focused while armored relies more on the vehicles?

I was Light Cavarly.

If you want to cut about the battlefield on armoured vehicles, do all the interesting armoured stuff then go Armoured Recce. You've still got Sniper and Anti-tank troops, and your vehicle has a roof.

If you want to be infantry, walk everywhere, do dismounted attacks etc, but want a bit of Cav style about it then join the Light Cav.

Personally if doing it again I would go Armoured Cav, far more exciting while still have plenty of opportunities. Light Cav is nothing more than a mechanised infantry unit.
 
I was Light Cavarly.

If you want to cut about the battlefield on armoured vehicles, do all the interesting armoured stuff then go Armoured Recce. You've still got Sniper and Anti-tank troops, and your vehicle has a roof.

If you want to be infantry, walk everywhere, do dismounted attacks etc, but want a bit of Cav style about it then join the Light Cav.

Personally if doing it again I would go Armoured Cav, far more exciting while still have plenty of opportunities. Light Cav is nothing more than a mechanised infantry unit.
Aren't those Armoured Cav units being reequipped with Ajax? And as we've figured out on Fres2, will eventually be classed as Medium Tanks !!!!!
 

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