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Armed Forces Day? Gvmt p*ss take?

#1
Armed Forces Day? P*ss take or good idea?
i am all for the lads/lasses being appreciated for the sacrifices they make, but what pisses me off is politicians jumping on the bandwagon. if todays papers are to be believed then instead of a day to be enjoyed in whatever way is seen fit by those making the sacrifice, ie a long w/e with loved ones, we have: a day of fun(!) in the barracks, que two weeks graft making the sh*t hole look habitable, followed by blokes trying to look interested. why dont we give the lads what they want, time at home with their loved ones!
 
#2
And WE have Remembrance Day for what exactly?

Better pay and conditions for those who need them now!

Respect from ALL the Civilian Population of the UK!

Discount from Shops / Bars and Hotels!

What's the catch?
 
#5
my point is that people who think they know what we want, DONT! lets have a bank holiday after the army/navy. or at least consult those that you pertain to be making decisions on behalf of.
 
#8
Here in the USA, they have "Memorial Day". This is in May. It is a separate Public Holiday from that in November, for "veterans". Memorial Day is all about those who are and have served. It is not about the nation's losses.
There are parades etc here on this May (in the UK it would be called a Bank holiday) to honour those who have served.

Indeed a few years ago I was asked to take part in a Parade at the Henry Ford Museum complex Michigan (pre 911 even), based on service with a ALLIED power.It is all about The Veterans and is part, I think, of why Veterans are more "respected" by Society, than in the UK.
 
#9
Indiana Del; a very fair point, there seems to be allot more respect for all those in and ex servicemen in the US of A!

So why don't our CHAV Barstuards have the same respect?
 
#10
IndianaDel said:
Here in the USA, they have "Memorial Day". This is in May. It is a separate Public Holiday from that in November, for "veterans". Memorial Day is all about those who are and have served. It is not about the nation's losses.
There are parades etc here on this May (in the UK it would be called a Bank holiday) to honour those who have served.

Indeed a few years ago I was asked to take part in a Parade at the Henry Ford Museum complex Michigan (pre 911 even), based on service with a ALLIED power.It is all about The Veterans and is part, I think, of why Veterans are more "respected" by Society, than in the UK.
Sadly, veterans aren't respected by some people in the UK, because most people living here are descendents of the old enemy. And they don't like it up 'em.
 
#11
Bollox to Armed Forces Day,lets go the whole Socialist/Communist hog and really take the pish.

Army Day,Navy Day,Air Force Day,TA Day,Police Persons Day,Wetbacks Day,etc.

If we work at it hard enough,we might end up with more public holidays the Germany! :lol:
 
#14
It's an uninspiring name is half the problem: "Armed Forces Day" is a technocratic mouthful. Remembrance Sunday has an elegance to it that isn't captured by this name that sounds like it was dreamt up by an uninspired bureaucrat.

We don't need to create a new "Armed Forces Day", as there are plenty of existing days which could be used if someone in government had the imagination to actually translate this from a piece of paper into a workable policy.

What's more they can satisfy both the patriotic and the politically correct: use the anniversary of the Battle of Waterloo for the Army; It was a the employment of a multinational, multicultural multiethnic force, and it beat the French. Everybody's a winner.

The Navy can expand Trafalgar day: once again the French were beaten, but the PC lot can be satisfied that the force was led by a half-blind man with one arm.

No idea for the RAF - not my bit of history.
 
#16
CharlieBubbles said:
And WE have Remembrance Day for what exactly? quote]


Rememberance day is for remembering those who've died in conflict.

I assume 'Armed forces day' (agreed naff name) is for celebrating the armed forces. That's quite difference to remembering the dead, and I for one would prefer to keep these seperate.

Regarding the other issues, I would imagine that the low key nature of UK forces is the source of this. Raising the profile a bit can't really do anyone any harm.

Someone mentioned 'Navy day' and an 'Army day' and 'Uniformed civillians day' (that's my dig at the RAF). The problem with this is, if it's impact you're after, then scale is important. Big is best, here, methinks.
 
#18
As an ex serviceman all I want is the following

1/ MOD 90 with retired or some such endorsement.

2/Assistance with either training or education on leaving or if I choose my children's training or education.

3/ Priority treatment for service attributable injuries for my lifetime.

4/ Priority job opportunity's in local or national government on leaving.

They can stick their "day"
 
#19
dante242 said:
As an ex serviceman all I want is the following

1/ MOD 90 with retired or some such endorsement.

2/Assistance with either training or education on leaving or if I choose my children's training or education.

3/ Priority treatment for service attributable injuries for my lifetime.

4/ Priority job opportunity's in local or national government on leaving.

They can stick their "day"
I think the point is that all of the above require some kind of political will (even MOD90's). And one way of getting a bit more political will is to have things like 'Armed Forces Days' where we can show off a bit to general public. Like civvies or not- they pay the bills and make the rules.
 
#20
A Government that does not look after its Defenders and Defences, obviously thinks they have nothing worth defending. But then thats Nieu Labia all over.