Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders, 17 CDT Failures

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BBC news article

Seventeen soldiers in one Army battalion have tested positive for drugs, the Ministry of Defence said.
The soldiers from the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders were tested after returning from a break in the Mexican resort of Cancun.

An MoD spokesman would not confirm reports that those who were positive had taken class A drugs, including heroin and cocaine.

It is understood the troops will now be disciplined and face being discharged.

Drug testing

The spokesman said: "Seventeen members of the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders have provided positive samples following a compulsory drugs test at their unit.

"Drugs use is incompatible with life in the armed forces and is not tolerated."

But he added: "Positive test results in the Army over the past four years average around 0.7% compared with over 7% in civilian work place drug testing programmes."

The Argylls, the 5th Battalion of the Royal Regiment of Scotland, had been sent to Cancun after an exercise in the jungles of Belize lasting several weeks.

It is understood they were tested on their return.


A surprising number, is this the largest number on one go?
 
#2
I think it could run a few others very close if its not!
The independant recently deduced from MOD figures that we are catching a battalions worth per year, running at an average of 18 per week|
 
#3
It shows that CDT does work and with an average of 0.7% users in the army versus 7% in civvy street.

This should be rolled out to cover all elected official and civil servants with a mandatory loss of pension if caught!

This would help reduce New Liarbours majority!
 
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PassingBells said:
Test them coming back from Cancun - whose bright idea was that?

Yes we all abhor drug use, but it's a reality. Be sensible about when you test.
only test when you are sure you'll catch fewer... what a great idea. lets extend that to drink driving and not test anyone during the Christmas period as it'll 'be more sensible'

Who would get to decide when and where is 'sensible' to test for drug abuse? Where and when do we declare illegal drug use to be OK?
 
#6
romach said:
It shows that CDT does work and with an average of 0.7% users in the army versus 7% in civvy street.

This should be rolled out to cover all elected official and civil servants with a mandatory loss of pension if caught!

This would help reduce New Liarbours majority!
Agree with that, all MP's should be drug tested. But we all know that will never happen.
 
#8
spot on lads " if they cant do the time ?" but these days its a straight discharge no Colchester time quid pro quo no real punishment and straight back to civvi street ( im assuming being in didnt bother them when the white shite was going up the nose )
 
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Hairy-Sporran said:
spot on lads " if they cant do the time ?" but these days its a straight discharge no Colchester time quid pro quo no real punishment and straight back to civvi street ( im assuming being in didnt bother them when the white shite was going up the nose )
there was a programme on STV (ITV in Scotland) or BBC Scotland about boy soldiers using drugs and they interviewed about 10 of them from the West of Scotland and they did not understand why taking drugs was wrong.

I was shocked that all they get was punted back to civvy street rather than a nice holday in the glass house for being a useless t!t.

Is it me or are a large number of teenagers today too soft and too willing to duck responsibility?
 
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PassingBells said:
Test them coming back from Cancun - whose bright idea was that?

Yes we all abhor drug use, but it's a reality. Be sensible about when you test.
Oh that's right, the pour souls are so hard done by, that nasty nasty drug team, how dare they do their job properly, it's outrageous! Those poor lads having drugs forced down them while on the arduous task of pishing it up in Mexico.

Surely they can appeal ?

What say you passing bells you chod.
 
#13
PassingBells said:
Test them coming back from Cancun - whose bright idea was that?

Yes we all abhor drug use, but it's a reality. Be sensible about when you test.
I've been to Cancun a few times and never found it necassary to take drugs to enhance my holiday.

Thats a really poor excuse mate.
 
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#14
Hairy-Sporran said:
I think it could run a few others very close if its not!
The independant recently deduced from MOD figures that we are catching a battalions worth per year, running at an average of 18 per week|
Has anyone phoned Norris McWhirter?
 
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minister_doh_nut said:
PassingBells said:
Test them coming back from Cancun - whose bright idea was that?

Yes we all abhor drug use, but it's a reality. Be sensible about when you test.
I've been to Cancun a few times and never found it necassary to take drugs to enhance my holiday.

Thats a really poor excuse mate.
Yes, but you had several small boys to entertain you whilst you were there.
 
#16
If they are (which they should be) discharged immediately where are 17 "replacements" going to come from? Recruitment in the SCOTS is low enough at the moment without having to replace large numbers of people.

Chances are they will also be from the same section/platoon, which will in turn have a major impact on the unit, sadly enough young soldiers see nothing wrong with a bit of "dabbling" and the effects it has on their lives.
 
#17
They would have been better off drinking themselves into oblivion. That's allowed!!!
 
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#19
methilman said:
If they are (which they should be) discharged immediately where are 17 "replacements" going to come from? Recruitment in the SCOTS is low enough at the moment without having to replace large numbers of people.

Chances are they will also be from the same section/platoon, which will in turn have a major impact on the unit, sadly enough young soldiers see nothing wrong with a bit of "dabbling" and the effects it has on their lives.
It's the attitude they brought with them into the Army. They've grown up amongst it and drug 'abuse' isn't considered as such in the estates where the likes of these blokes grew up. It's viewed as being as much a social event as nipping down the pub and in most cases, it's also cheaper.
 
#20
shortfuse said:
Jocks love the gear...

it's to help them forget the sodden shite hole they come from.

Crack cocaine is the new porridge.
dont get personal about gods own country,
and dont tar us all with the same brush,
Brittish flag we work under and proud of it
 

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