Argentina: Falklands 'Ours In 20 Years'

#1
I know another FI/Argie thread

Argentina: Falklands 'Ours In 20 Years'

Argentina will control the Falkland Islands within 20 years, the country's foreign minister has declared as he visits Britain.

Hector Timerman, in London for the first time, called the British "fanatics" as he claimed the UK was only interested in the islands because of their oil reserves.

He ruled out launching military action to end the long-standing dispute over their sovereignty but claimed Britain was internationally isolated in its claim.

His comments are the latest salvo in a 130-year-old dispute over the islands, which Argentina insists on calling the Malvinas.

"The United Kingdom has never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity to find a solution for the Malvinas," Mr Timerman said in a joint interview with The Guardian and The Independent.

"I don't think it will take another 20 years. I think that the world is going through a process of understanding more and more that this is a colonial issue, an issue of colonialism, and that the people living there were transferred to the islands.

"We have been trying to find a peaceful solution for 180 years. I think the fanatics are not in Buenos Aires (but) maybe in the United Kingdom because they are 14,000km (8,700 miles) away from the islands.

"And I think they are using the people living in the islands for political (reasons) and to have access to oil and natural resources which belong to the Argentine people. I think we are not fanatical at all."

Mr Timerman had been due to meet Foreign Secretary William Hague during his visit but he pulled out when the Foreign Office said Falklanders would also be present.

"There is not one single country in the world which supports the right of the United Kingdom to govern over the Malvinas. Not one," he said on Thursday.

"According to the United Nations, there are only two parties to the conflict - the United Kingdom and the Republic of Argentina. It is an issue that has to be resolved by Argentina and the United Kingdom.

"By introducing a third party, the United Kingdom is changing more than 40 resolutions by the United Nations, which call the two countries to negotiate."

Mr Timerman also dismissed next month's planned referendum of the islanders on whether they want to remain part of the British Overseas Territories as meaningless.

"If you ask the colonial people who came with a colonial power and replaced the people who were living in the islands, it is like asking the British citizens of the Malvinas Islands if they want to remain British," he said.

And he hit back at suggestions that the government in Buenos Aires had been agitating over the issue of the islands in an attempt to distract from economic problems at home.

"I think it is the United Kingdom that is going through an economic crisis and is becoming isolationist more than Argentina," he said.

"They want to get out of the European Union, there is a sense here (in Britain) that we want to stop the world and get out."

Mr Timerman later clashed with MPs when he appeared before the all-party group on Argentina, insisting again that Buenos Aires would not recognise the referendum.

"The self-determination referendum doesn't apply to the Malvinas. It is not a colonised people, it is a colonised territory," he said.

"It is not a matter for negotiation. Not one single country in the world recognises the sovereignty of the United Kingdom in the Malvinas.

"We have to respect the interests of the people living in the area, but not the wishes."
 
#3
Although 20 years is a fair assessment. The FCO spent the years prior to 1982 trying to give the fúcker back in any case.
 
#4
This buffoon should be deported back to Argentina immediately.

What gall to accuse US of colonialism!

The Argies really are beneath contempt.
 

Grumblegrunt

LE
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#6
there was allways the suspicions of oil but never how much so the big companies didn't want to bother when arab oil was easier to get at.

sign a mutual treaty with uruaguay, get it ratified and watch what happens when we base typhoon and paras in montevideo

if they claim its a colony then we just do what the US and france does - let them declare independance but keep the military there ad infinitum.
 
#7
"According to the United Nations, there are only two parties to the conflict - the United Kingdom and the Republic of Argentina. It is an issue that has to be resolved by Argentina and the United Kingdom.

"By introducing a third party, the United Kingdom is changing more than 40 resolutions by the United Nations, which call the two countries to negotiate."
They're gonna be****ed if Scotland goes native then.
 
#8
Does Mr Timerman's Hotel Room have a balcony perchance? I'm sure Cumpers available and he has a 'THEM' beret to boot!
 

DieHard

LE
Book Reviewer
#9
Kick him up the arrse and send him home, send all the other diplomats with him and put a ban on Argie beef in the uk.
watch as there economy wilts further.



The arrse kick should be publick like parliment sq.
Why should we tolerate his rants in our own country.


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#10
As they don't currently have National Service it would be interesting to assess if they themselves believe their military is currently more capable, compared with '82.
 
#11
Their military may be weak, but we lack the mighty SHAR, flown by St Sharkey of Ward (hallowed be his SLR)...
 
#12
Why are we not invoking mutual EU Treaties. Fine idea to boycott Argentine beef etc, but how about the EU showing some solidarity like Mitterand did and boycotting the feckers full stop. Is it not about time the EU worked for us?
 

FORMER_FYRDMAN

LE
Book Reviewer
#14
As they don't currently have National Service it would be interesting to assess if they themselves believe their military is currently more capable, compared with '82.
Well, they could start by assessing this:

 
#15
Why are we not invoking mutual EU Treaties. Fine idea to boycott Argentine beef etc, but how about the EU showing some solidarity like Mitterand did and boycotting the feckers full stop. Is it not about time the EU worked for us?
It's about time we gave the EU the big **** off.
 
#16
A family friend was working out there (Argentina) untill Christmas. Reckoned if it wasn't for the fact that every other politician is as crap as ole rubber lips she would have been topped ages ago.
Man on the Buenos aires omnibus knows when their government mention the Falklands the economy is up shit creek again.
 

Grumblegrunt

LE
Book Reviewer
#18
any ship mounted proper fighting flying thing would be usefull full stop, at least we still have shar tucked away awaiting instant ressurection. I wouldn't be surprised if the navy keeps flying them in secret and without the knowledge of the raf.

plenty of ufo sightings down that neck of the woods :)

[video=youtube;5dHsYhuXeZw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dHsYhuXeZw[/video]
 

DieHard

LE
Book Reviewer
#19
Why are we not invoking mutual EU Treaties. Fine idea to boycott Argentine beef etc, but how about the EU showing some solidarity like Mitterand did and boycotting the feckers full stop. Is it not about time the EU worked for us?
Brussels only works to its own
agenda, maybe if they thought it would keep us in the eu they might intervene
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FORMER_FYRDMAN

LE
Book Reviewer
#20
so this coming from a country who's navy is on par with the Swiss at the present time!
Since I have a Swiss ancestor who came to the UK in the 1780's, it is a matter of pride to point out that the Swiss are much further ahead than the Argies in their understanding of the critical importance of buoyancy (and hygiene).

 

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