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Are you a: Information Systems Engineer

#41
Nice one. I hope you enjoy your posting.
 
#42
speckygeek said:
rebel_007 said:
(2) If we are sent on tour, how much direct combat should be expect to see? IS Engineer is not a Combat job but, what is the reality of the situation here.
Whats this com....bat to which you are referring. I have heard of a cricket bat.
sounds like Common Battlefield Application Toolset (ComBAT) to me which is a Bowman ting, therefore the realm of RS/CS Operators, and Application specialists (E2 Trade). IS Eng work in a gucci office, send numerous funnies by email and knock off early. but not for sport, unless you count doctors appointments and drinking as recreational activities.
 
#43
Enigma_Bleep said:
speckygeek said:
rebel_007 said:
(2) If we are sent on tour, how much direct combat should be expect to see? IS Engineer is not a Combat job but, what is the reality of the situation here.
Whats this com....bat to which you are referring. I have heard of a cricket bat.
sounds like Common Battlefield Application Toolset (ComBAT) to me which is a Bowman ting, therefore the realm of RS/CS Operators, and Application specialists (E2 Trade). IS Eng work in a gucci office, send numerous funnies by email and knock off early. but not for sport, unless you count doctors appointments and drinking as recreational activities.
Who doesn't?
 
#44
Enigma_Bleep said:
sounds like Common Battlefield Application Toolset (ComBAT) to me which is a Bowman ting, therefore the realm of RS/CS Operators, and Application specialists (E2 Trade). IS Eng work in a gucci office, send numerous funnies by email and knock off early. but not for sport, unless you count doctors appointments and drinking as recreational activities.
Bitter and twisted by any chance?
 
#45
I take it i have all this grief to come as an IS Engr - i didnt realise they got so much grief.
 
#46
Snowboard_bum said:
I take it i have all this grief to come as an IS Engr - i didnt realise they got so much grief.
Part of the job, which IMHO should be instructed at Blandford, is knowing what grief needs to be ignored, and what needs to be listened to.

A scenario you are likely to experience goes something like this,

All your services are down. You and your team are working on re-establishing them according to MOD priorities and SOP laid down by J6/Netcen etc. You will invariably have some muppet, on Ops in the desert dressed in lightweights, brown brogues and No 2 shirt and a wolly fishermans jumper raising merry hell with you and the subby watch officer because the Internet is down, and he has a pony on "Cavalry Boy" in the 3.30 at Kempton.

Knowing how to deal with that, whilst making him walk away thinking he's getting his gripe sorted is one of the many tasks of the IS Engr. If, at the same time, you can convince the subby that they sorted it themselves, you'll go far my friend!!.
 
#47
following on...another skill is being able to convnince the teddy-bear throwing SO that the neither the internet NOR his tantrum are your first priority at that given moment, without the use of the rifle butt, whilst giving him a warm fuzzy feeling that he wil be able to get on to Ladbrokes as soon as possible, possibly after the trifling matter of a coalition system crash is out of the way.
Then you thank the subbie for his or her moral support, and get to "the coal face" and fix the fault, leaving the subbie to field any other well meant constructive criticism, as you square away the problem
Or alternatively spend 1-2 hours explaining the fault to somebody, who will pretend to know exactly what you are on about, and will nod knowingly at such terms as "MTA stack", "OSI 8 Layer model" , "PEBKAC" or even "flux capacitor"....at which point you should stop talking immediately, knowing that this is maybe not this particular individuals field of undoubted expertise, and go and sort things out....safe in the knowledge that you could have been in the Echos, eating lard, an hour ago....possibly
 
#48
Theres me thinking that it would be easy LOL - roll on Afgahn and the new tax bonus!
 
#51
nald said:
I'm looking to re-trade, is there an entrance/appitude test or did they get rid of it?
No aptitude test anymore.

The basic flow is: submit the PD (policy directive), get your chain of command to endorse it, get RCMO interview, get SPSO interview at Blandford then you'll get told "yay or nay" pretty much on the spot.

CS
 
#53
Gravelbelly said:
bigbadjimmyp said:
...and will nod knowingly at such terms as "OSI 8 Layer model"
Oh, please tell me that's your personal bullshit detector for IS walts... or I'll worry about your typing :)
I had it down as a geek inspired WAH, so was keeping my mouth shut.
 
#54
ifrits_ghost said:
im a civvy IS Eng and i just thought i would add a comment or two,

a good thing to have is to get yourself BCS certified to memeber level and if you want also iee or ieee then be active in the 'social' side of this as they are great for networking and finding out about jobs and new sectors, also it lets any employer know that you have to work to a set standard and have a certian level of experiance. I'm also using my membership to work towards my chartred status (about one year to go).
the next thing i would surgest is a professional qualification i would recommend cisco still as employers who only know a little about it think they are the dogs and other employers still recognise them, also to get to say CCNP level is only two exams at ~£80 each alot cheaper than a MCSE (8 exams) or even a MCSA (8 exams), abit harder to pass though. i'm on may way to CCIE but sidestepped from CCNA to CCDA inorder to work for a CCDP.

anyway this is what i'm doing during my first two years working as a Network Engineer/ SysAdmin by the end i should be CEng, MBCS, MIEEE, CCNA/CCDP and MCSE. and i'll never have to look at exams again as experiance will take over i hope.

sorry for the long post

I_G

remember 28/07 sysadmin day
I think you will find CCNP is 4 exams BSCI BCMSN ISCW and ONT and at nearly £100 per exam with Pearson VUE


The CCNA is basically 2 exams Intro and ICND or you can take one which combines them both the 640-801 exam which I have just done.

My current employers have just signed a Billion dollar contract with another company and one of the stipulations was all the comms engineers needed to be CCNA certified.Even though I have been in the comms industry for over 17 years and I have quite a few industry qualifications they still wanted the CCNA as a minimum.

Remember CCNA CCDA CCNP CCDP CCVP and CCIP are only valid for 3 years then you have to recertify.

The easiest way to recertify is to take a 642 specialist exam which validates your current certificate.
 
#55
Gravelbelly said:
bigbadjimmyp said:
...and will nod knowingly at such terms as "OSI 8 Layer model"
Oh, please tell me that's your personal bullshit detector for IS walts... or I'll worry about your typing :)
It is well known there are only 7 layers to the OSI model but I think our friend was alluding to the datalink layer which has two sublayers the LLC layer and the Mac layer. Instead of treating them as combined layers within the data link layer I think he has seperated them.

Either that or it was his bullshit detector
 
#56
scousemech said:
Gravelbelly said:
bigbadjimmyp said:
...and will nod knowingly at such terms as "OSI 8 Layer model"
Oh, please tell me that's your personal bullshit detector for IS walts... or I'll worry about your typing :)
It is well known there are only 7 layers to the OSI model but I think our friend was alluding to the datalink layer which has two sublayers the LLC layer and the Mac layer. Instead of treating them as combined layers within the data link layer I think he has seperated them.

Either that or it was his bullshit detector
Then surely he would have included Data Link as a layer in itself, then added the LLC and Mac layers, and called it a 9 layer model?

Right, i'm off to stab myself in the eye :)
 
#57
Yeah I know I'm probably going to get a big "wah", here, but my understanding is that Layer 8 is a sarcastic reference to the User.

PD
 
#58
PoisonDwarf said:
Yeah I know I'm probably going to get a big "wah", here, but my understanding is that Layer 8 is a sarcastic reference to the User.

PD
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :D
 
#59
PoisonDwarf said:
Yeah I know I'm probably going to get a big "wah", here, but my understanding is that Layer 8 is a sarcastic reference to the User.

PD
I hadn't heard that one PD, last tour it was referred to as CUNT "Computer User Not Trained" - will now be referred to as layer 8 as its more acceptable to say in polite conversation!!!(and probably not acceptable in the sigs forum, before bow_man deletes it, Ski Geek wont, he cant spell!!)
 
#60
scousemech said:
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :D
Doh! :pc: :censored:
 

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