Are we going to see riots this summer ?

Joker62

ADC
Book Reviewer
Cresida Dick CC of the "MI5" is rubbing her hands that the BLM budget cuts calls so she can blame Boris and do the cuts and spend the money saved used for crime to promote diversity (LGBT) and blame Boris again.
The cuts to the Met are coming from Khan's budget, not Boris's. Khan was told to make cuts across the board, but does he get rid of the non jobs like NIght Czar (Night Czar) and other like minded shite, but no, he decides to cut the budgets for police, fire and ambulance services. Mind, he has cut the budget for City Hall by moving from that magnificant building by Tower Bridge to some gaff in Docklands.

This piece from the Telegraph explains what Khan is upto with the London budget:-

"If Sadiq Khan is going to solve City Hall's money woes, he is going to have to put Londoners' priorities first and cut his wasteful virtue-signalling initiatives.

In the wake of the coronavirus crisis, the Greater London Authority faces, we are told, a whopping £493 million black hole in its budget over the next two years. It means for the first time as Mayor, Sadiq Khan must save money, rather than spend it.

Unfortunately for Londoners, the Mayor is already lining up cuts to his budget for London's emergency services. On Friday Khan unveiled his plan to balance City Hall's books by cutting £109.3 million from Metropolitan Police and £25 million from the London Fire Brigade.

Despite his warnings of a new austerity post-coronavirus, an approach which the Government has rejected, Sadiq Khan is ironically planning to impose it on London himself. And Khan's proposed cuts are not small. His policing cuts alone are the equivalent to the salaries of 1,681 police officers.

As usual, Sadiq Khan is treating this crisis as a press opportunity to attack the Government, rather than a problem he is responsible for solving. His gambit is that by playing the part of a 'poor Mayor' and publicly calling for ministers to step in and bail him out again, Londoners will not notice that he is the one choosing to drop the axe on the vital services that keep our city safe.

While the Mayor may choose to shirk responsibility, he does have a choice when it comes to balancing City Hall's books. He could safeguard the budgets of London's police and fire brigade by reversing his huge spending increases on City Hall waste and TfL perks for the past four years.

In February, Conservative London Assembly members proposed an alternative budget plan which identified £113 million of savings the Mayor could make to invest in London's emergency services. Sadly, Khan rejected the proposal at the time, but if he looked again at the plan, he could find enough savings to protect the budgets of London's police and fire brigade.

To fix City Hall's finances, Sadiq Khan must cut his ridiculous projects and his eye-watering splurges. At the most ludicrous end, Khan has splashed almost half a million pounds on pop-up beach parties at the Royal Docks, £30k on a bicycle ballet to explore female liberation, and £1.7 million on a hundred, rather ugly, water fountains. Only a particularly inept Mayor could prioritise these projects above extra police officers.
 
Hailey Selassie's statue in Wimbledon park has been pulled down and destroyed. Was it:

a) Black Lives Matters
b) English racists, or
c) Ethiopians because of an Ethiopian internal political dispute?

We've got enough crap going on at the moment without asylum seekers bringing their old third world violent disputes here.

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ancienturion

LE
Book Reviewer
Delicious.
The BBC always seems desperate to prove they are worth the disgusting fee they try to charge everyone who receives television info.
 
“The BBC cannot be seen to support any kind of cause over another, and Black Lives Matter is certainly a campaign,” the BBC source said
I suppose they would like to forget this then?
  • Victoria Derbyshire, a primetime chat show, interviewed the woman organizing the blimp's appearance at a protest, and also a pro-Trump campaigner, as the balloon floated over them.
 
The cuts to the Met are coming from Khan's budget, not Boris's. Khan was told to make cuts across the board, but does he get rid of the non jobs like NIght Czar (Night Czar) and other like minded shite, but no, he decides to cut the budgets for police, fire and ambulance services. Mind, he has cut the budget for City Hall by moving from that magnificant building by Tower Bridge to some gaff in Docklands.

This piece from the Telegraph explains what Khan is upto with the London budget:-

"If Sadiq Khan is going to solve City Hall's money woes, he is going to have to put Londoners' priorities first and cut his wasteful virtue-signalling initiatives.

In the wake of the coronavirus crisis, the Greater London Authority faces, we are told, a whopping £493 million black hole in its budget over the next two years. It means for the first time as Mayor, Sadiq Khan must save money, rather than spend it.

Unfortunately for Londoners, the Mayor is already lining up cuts to his budget for London's emergency services. On Friday Khan unveiled his plan to balance City Hall's books by cutting £109.3 million from Metropolitan Police and £25 million from the London Fire Brigade.

Despite his warnings of a new austerity post-coronavirus, an approach which the Government has rejected, Sadiq Khan is ironically planning to impose it on London himself. And Khan's proposed cuts are not small. His policing cuts alone are the equivalent to the salaries of 1,681 police officers.

As usual, Sadiq Khan is treating this crisis as a press opportunity to attack the Government, rather than a problem he is responsible for solving. His gambit is that by playing the part of a 'poor Mayor' and publicly calling for ministers to step in and bail him out again, Londoners will not notice that he is the one choosing to drop the axe on the vital services that keep our city safe.

While the Mayor may choose to shirk responsibility, he does have a choice when it comes to balancing City Hall's books. He could safeguard the budgets of London's police and fire brigade by reversing his huge spending increases on City Hall waste and TfL perks for the past four years.

In February, Conservative London Assembly members proposed an alternative budget plan which identified £113 million of savings the Mayor could make to invest in London's emergency services. Sadly, Khan rejected the proposal at the time, but if he looked again at the plan, he could find enough savings to protect the budgets of London's police and fire brigade.

To fix City Hall's finances, Sadiq Khan must cut his ridiculous projects and his eye-watering splurges. At the most ludicrous end, Khan has splashed almost half a million pounds on pop-up beach parties at the Royal Docks, £30k on a bicycle ballet to explore female liberation, and £1.7 million on a hundred, rather ugly, water fountains. Only a particularly inept Mayor could prioritise these projects above extra police officers.
Perhaps he could look around his own office for a start?

Spending on City Hall employees has risen by 82% while Sadiq Khan has been mayor, according to official figures.
Staff costs in Boris Johnson's final budget for 2016-17 were £36m, while the proposed budget for 2020-21 under Mr Khan show them to be at £65.5m.
 
Perhaps he could look around his own office for a start?

Spending on City Hall employees has risen by 82% while Sadiq Khan has been mayor, according to official figures.
Staff costs in Boris Johnson's final budget for 2016-17 were £36m, while the proposed budget for 2020-21 under Mr Khan show them to be at £65.5m.
I suspect he is well aware that there was plenty of low hanging fruit available that could have trimmed his budget. Making the cuts he has secures him his voter base, as it's them calling for the police to be defunded. I've already said it, I don't think this was a fiscal exercise, it's a cynical ploy for him to stay in office, nothing more.

The mayor of London is a corrupt Marxist (at least a pretend one) and undermining the UK government.
 

4(T)

LE
Hailey Selassie's statue in Wimbledon park has been pulled down and destroyed. Was it:

a) Black Lives Matters
b) English racists, or
c) Ethiopians because of an Ethiopian internal political dispute?

We've got enough crap going on at the moment without asylum seekers bringing their old third world violent disputes here.

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" After the group had left the park, police arrived..."


No surprise there then. 100-strong mob gather, hang around waving placards, and then launch into criminal damage. Police appear once they've all left the scene.

Allow unlimited third world immigration, encourage identity politics, remove the rule of law, allow mobs to dictate police and government policy, etc and so on.

Now any so-called "community" or can crack on and smash up whichever bit of host country heritage that they please.

Are the government and Police really so thick that they cannot understand the need to exert authority and prevent this becoming the anarchic norm?
 
Maybe the idea of senior military types being given direct entry into senior roles in police forces, isn't such a bad one.
Maybe the concept that every police officer, however senior, has at some point in their careers been a PC walking a beat, is an antiquated concept that should now be abandoned. Afterall, the Col doesn't have to be the super-dupper sniping ninja himself, that's what he's got the Riflemen for. They look to the Col for leadership, direction and to make the tough strategic decisions, not lay up in a hide with them. Maybe the same could apply to the police force? Get rid of these snowflake capitulant tossers at the top, and bring in a few senior military types to lead the troops.
Not a bad idea, but it's still putting a plaster on a major wound. It won't change the fact that the police have 20,000 less officers than they did in 2011, when they effectively lost control of major cities for several days. Nor will it change the fact that the standards for fitness and self protection training, outside of specialist units, is often laughably low.

British policing has always been based on the model of consent by the law abiding majority. That is, for the most part, a fine and noble tradition. Unfortunately, to quote his Grace the Duke of Ankh, Blackboard Monitor Sir Samuel Vimes, Commander of the City Watch,

"Policing by consent was all very well, but you had to get the buggers to stop moving first".

When push comes to shove, the police need the sheer muscle to enforce the law. They have lost that, and getting it back won't be easy. It will take years and cost hundreds of millions. And it will have to be done in the face of entrenched opposition, including the highest level of the police themselves.

That said, I agree that in many cases, the most senior police officers are part of the problem, not the solution. The fish rots from the head down. Doesn't Like Dick of the Yard was sneering in a DM interview a few days ago that claims the police lost control of some of the violent demonstrations of the last few weeks were, "absurd". The first part of dealing with any problem is admitting you actually have one.
 
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Bob65

War Hero
I suppose they would like to forget this then?
  • Victoria Derbyshire, a primetime chat show, interviewed the woman organizing the blimp's appearance at a protest, and also a pro-Trump campaigner, as the balloon floated over them.
And the entire last 4 years of relentless banging the drum for Remain. If we're defunding anyone, they should be top of the list.

Mind you they do know how the game is played. Any threats to their gravy train they always say they'll cut CBeebies first, that gets the howling mob of Mumsnet Karens on-side...
 

Bob65

War Hero
It won't change the fact that the police have 20,000 less officers than they did in 2011, when they effectively lost control of major cities for several days. Nor will it change the fact that the standards for fitness and self protection training, outside of specialist units, is often laughably low.
That's true but it's also not the whole story


We can see that police numbers were unusually high during the Bliar/Brown years, but are higher now than they were during the period of civil unrest during the early Thatcher years. Police per head of the population might be a more useful metric than absolute numbers.

You're right about the fitness, some of the officers I see around don't look like they run much.
 
Hailey Selassie's statue in Wimbledon park has been pulled down and destroyed. Was it:

a) Black Lives Matters
b) English racists, or
c) Ethiopians because of an Ethiopian internal political dispute?

We've got enough crap going on at the moment without asylum seekers bringing their old third world violent disputes here.

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civvy

Old-Salt
I went to bed last night sometime after midnight. Strange thing was that the street lights were still on. They usually go off at midnight. Turns out that the police have asked for the street light to be left on all night because a group of pikeys have set up camp on the football pitches and have gone about their nocturnal wealth distribution activities.

Good job they weren't black because that would be racist and BLM would have to organise a riot protest.
 

tgo

War Hero
That's true but it's also not the whole story


We can see that police numbers were unusually high during the Bliar/Brown years, but are higher now than they were during the period of civil unrest during the early Thatcher years. Police per head of the population might be a more useful metric than absolute numbers.

You're right about the fitness, some of the officers I see around don't look like they run much.
I've often thought that, a copper for every 500 people or whatever % is worked out, then as the population increases so does the number of police in proportion. It;'s not rocket science, will it happen ? Will it feck. Shame though.
 

RiffRaff

Swinger
How much of the policing budget is ringfenced because it is for national priorities? We now have a de facto if not de jure national police force so cuts will always come out of local policing.
 

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