Are the RAF getting rid of PAYD?

#4
I hope the Army do follow suit because it is the worst shower of shite I've ever come across.
 
#5
highly unlikely that a single service will be able to just cut away, although the RAF are not part of the RF construct so anything may be possible...however, what happens on a joint service establishment of which there are 100s?
 
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Big_Jim_Slade said:
I hope the Army do follow suit because it is the worst shower of shite I've ever come across.
And replace it with what?
 
#8
The Army can't go back to the old system that existed before PAYD came in when it charged living in soldiers a fixed amount every month - it just won't work.

We are stuck with PAYD.

Personally, I think that soldiers should not be charged for food or accommodation.
 
#11
As i believe, the Armed Forces are stuck with PAYD for the next 10 years as NAAFI have the contract for that long and if we were to break the contract, we would still be paying the robbing gits for that length of time (probably cost more to be honest).
 
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Big_Jim_Slade said:
I hope the Army do follow suit because it is the worst shower of shite I've ever come across.
70p for a jam doughnut now (how can Sodexo justify that?)...cans have gone up, not to mention the shit quality of most meals. We've actually started getting what seems like a dish of roast potatoes instead of Hash Browns for Breaksfast! Whats that about?
 
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phil37 said:
Personally, I think that soldiers should not be charged for food or accommodation.
Why? We aren't any different than anyone else in the country, why should we have free food and accomodation?
 
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stacker1 said:
phil37 said:
Personally, I think that soldiers should not be charged for food or accommodation.
Why? We aren't any different than anyone else in the country, why should we have free food and accomodation?
You're quite wrong, of course. I can't be arsed listing all the reasons.
 
#16
stacker1 said:
phil37 said:
Personally, I think that soldiers should not be charged for food or accommodation.
Why? We aren't any different than anyone else in the country, why should we have free food and accomodation?
We don't have free food and accommodation - it is deducted from your pay at source - that is where people get confused. In return for a fixed fee, you get 3 squares a day. The problem came when some socialist agitators started asking "do you think it is fair that you pay for meals that you don't take?" or "do you realise that you are subsidising your mates' food every time you skip a meal"? Sadly, they didn't follow it up with "but if we come up with a system whereby you only pay for meals you take, you will pay more for those meals and they will be strictly portion controlled".

Some POSB gits will be better off under PAYD, and they are probably the same people who started the whining in the first place, because they wanted to eat weeta-dust in their rooms for brekky and a pot noodle for lunch, followed by a microwave meal for one for dinner - i.e the people who don't go to the mess because no-one talks to them there anyway.

Anyway, the RAF aren't getting rid of PAYD, they are just in the throes of embracing 'CRL' (Catering, Retail and Leisure). Basically, everyone has finally realised that you can't make a profit on the food element of PAYD unless you screw-over the individual soldier every single day. Consequently they have lumped it in as a loss-leader with a contract to run the old NAAFI shops and to run the bars and clubs on camp, where there is greater scope to make a profit without basically screwing people. It might work, but they had better get the right contractor in to run it.
 
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Andy_Caps_Commando said:
As i believe, the Armed Forces are stuck with PAYD for the next 10 years as NAAFI have the contract for that long and if we were to break the contract, we would still be paying the robbing gits for that length of time (probably cost more to be honest).
naafi don't have any PAYD contracts with the Army; the contractors are sodexho, aramak, iss, ess and avenance. the contracts are to be renewed / reviewed in 2014.
 
#18
stacker1 said:
And replace it with what?
You could replace it with a troop of monkeys with Downs shitting on plates and then launching them across a hotplate at you, it would still be better than some of the slop I've had the misfortune to have to hand cash over for in the last couple of years. And it'd probably raise the level of personal hygeine amongst the catering staff too.

I didn't think it was possible for Blandford cookhouse (as an example) to get any worse than it was when I was a sprog there. They've managed to astound me though, because I wouldn't feed the muck that the useless twats there laughingly call food to pigs, mostly because I'd probably be arrested for animal cruelty.
 
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Danny_Dravot said:
Andy_Caps_Commando said:
As i believe, the Armed Forces are stuck with PAYD for the next 10 years as NAAFI have the contract for that long and if we were to break the contract, we would still be paying the robbing gits for that length of time (probably cost more to be honest).
naafi don't have any PAYD contracts with the Army; the contractors are sodexho, aramak, iss, ess and avenance. the contracts are to be renewed / reviewed in 2014.
I thought they had the contracts in Germany? There was a lot of bumping of gums when they took over Bruggen/Javelin and tried to nick all the other shops on camp.
 
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Danny_Dravot said:
Andy_Caps_Commando said:
As i believe, the Armed Forces are stuck with PAYD for the next 10 years as NAAFI have the contract for that long and if we were to break the contract, we would still be paying the robbing gits for that length of time (probably cost more to be honest).
naafi don't have any PAYD contracts with the Army; the contractors are sodexho, aramak, iss, ess and avenance. the contracts are to be renewed / reviewed in 2014.
Germany is NAAFI, hence the reason for the above quote, unless there trading under a different name..............
 
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