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Are the Europeans arming Iran?

#3
Neo Con are all Americans illiterate? You don't need an apostrophe between the n and the s when describing more than one European. I think also you need to read the article you've posted a little more closely. At no point did it mention arming the Iranians. The Italians made the satellite (perhaps not the brightest move) and the Russians launched it (ditto). So answer me this, did the Americans arm Pinochet, Noriega and Ferdinand Marcos. That would be a "yes" then.
 
#4
Jacques_Bustard said:
did the Americans arm Pinochet, Noriega and Ferdinand Marcos.
You forgot Osama Bin Ladin and the Taleban, and you might also have mentioned America's previous friendship with Saddam Hussein.
 
#5
I think also you need to read the article you've posted a little more closely. At no point did it mention arming the Iranians
Russian officials said Sina-1 was developed in cooperation with Moscow and manufactured in Iran.Fisher Institute for Strategic Air and Space Studies, said. "It is clear that Iran plans to use space for military purposes. We are talking about the first capabilities for Iran

I guess a spy satellite is not on your list as arms. It certainly does not make the middle east a more peaceful place.
 
#6
Aah, NEO_CON, you seem to have fallen into the simplistic trap of many of your countrywo/men. I know it's easier for the elementarily wired average Septic brain to come to the conclusion that just because Europeans in general are critical of Septic foreign policy, they automatically lump the whole Septic population in with that. Not true. Just about everybody on this forum realises that gormless gobshite Bush and his posse of huckters, shysters, con-men, professional waffle-merchants and pyschos are responsible for the present mess. And that's who they criticise.
Read the former postings about who's supplied what to whom.
Kettle, black and pot come to mind.

BTW, I've got an almost unused tinfoil hat you might be interested in.:)
 
#7
Was it not the United States' two-faced approach to international politics that resulted in the current War on Terror? Had the West not funded/supported the Mujahadin effort against the Soviet Union, the Islamic fundamentalists might not hold the the David and Goliath attitude they do today.
 
#8
Are the European's arming Iran?

Why bother asking a such a pathetically stupid question - when you've already made up your mind?

And, since you clearly believe that your opinion is infallibly correct, I suggest you do something about it...

I suggest you please write to the White House and ask them to do the World a favour and invade, occupy, democratise and lead those wicked Europeans into the better 'new world'...

I look forward to your ugly face NC exiting the first landing carft on my beach. I personally promise you a very warm welcome!!!!

PS. Still waiting for your answer. Are you an iranian-american?
 
#9
Sending spy/recce satellites into space certainly does not make the Middle East a safer place. Nor does cooking up spurious reasons for invading Iraq. I would also add that one of the first countries to use space for military purposes was the USA. Glad to see your punctuation has improved though.
 
#10
Glad to see your punctuation has improved though.
I am always happy to change. When I am wrong about something.


It doesn't matter weather those examples you sighted are true or not, most aren't . What matters is the europeans are arming the Iranians now. Is it going to cost lives and who will die because of the military capabilities be transferred? You seem to be ignoring the damage that is being done.
 
#11
It doesn't matter weather those examples you sighted are true or not, most aren't . What matters is the europeans are arming the Iranians now. Is it going to cost lives and who will die because of the military capabilities be transferred? You seem to be ignoring the damage that is being done.
Your off your head, we would have to sell our own parents, the family silver and our children. To even match what the septics have already sold the Iranians.
 
#13
NEO_CON said:
It doesn't matter weather those examples you sighted are true or not, most aren't . What matters is the europeans are arming the Iranians now. Is it going to cost lives and who will die because of the military capabilities be transferred? You seem to be ignoring the damage that is being done.
You may think some of the examples cited are untrue; but the US's support for all those mentioned is common knowledge, whether you like it or not. History shows that the US seemed to ignore the potential for future damage too, so any Eropeans selling arms to Iran will be in good company.
 
#14
PartTimePongo said:
Here's something to research Neo-Con

Has Israel ever supplied "Defence" equipment to Iran post 1979?
Don't waste your effort PTP. NC doesn't know what the words 'research', 'evidence' 'analysis', 'fact' and 'truth' mean.

The US provided Saddam with the ingredients to gas his own people. But hej, that's OK!

The US provided Iran with the majority of their current war equipment, Isreal has spent the last 25 years servicing and repairing that very same equipment (with US tacit approval). But hej, that's OK!

The US provided OBL with weopans, intelligence and knowhow that allowed him to become the scourge of the 'free' world. But hej, that's OK!

So, let's not let the odd 'fact' get in the way of a good wrong-wing drivvel minging story shall we.....
 
#15
NEO_CON said:
Glad to see your punctuation has improved though.
I am always happy to change. When I am wrong about something.


It doesn't matter weather those examples you sighted are true or not, most aren't . What matters is the europeans are arming the Iranians now. Is it going to cost lives and who will die because of the military capabilities be transferred? You seem to be ignoring the damage that is being done.
Peter! Why do you speak about 'Europeans'. In this particular example with the satelite mainly Russia should be mentioned.

Russia is interesting in good relations with all countries, especially with such a big and important (for Russia) country as Iran. Maybe there are some problems between Iran and USA but there are no unresolvable problems between Iran and Russia.

You can say that Russia could take into account American interests. But say frankly, do you know even one example when USA took into account Russian interests. Russia asked not to expand NATO (it was ignored), USA spent $60mln on electoral campaign in Ukraine being aware how important is Ukrane for Russia (btw, ethnically I'm Ukrainian at 1/2, my wife is Ukrainian, I have there many relatives).

What would be possible benefits for Russia if it would stop cooperation with Iran? Zero. Moreover the effect would be negative. Iran and other countries would regard Russia as unreliable partner. Thanks from USA I fear would not be sufficient compensation.

PS. I beg all forumists make grammatical notes toward Peter (NEO CON) only in private messages. Moreover your obedient servant is more suitable target. Any remarks about grammar and style of my posts would be much appresiated.
 
#16
NEO_CON why have you not answered the questions these fine gents have asked you?is it because you don't know or you just refuse to own up to the fact that the US has dirty hands too.
 
#17
I will own up to what the US has done both good and bad, freeing Iraq was one of the good things. Once you decide that it's not such a good Idea to arm the Iranians which I hope we all can agree on . I would think that the article I posted should cause a bit of outrage.
 
#18
NEO_CON said:
I will own up to what the US has done both good and bad, freeing Iraq was one of the good things. Once you decide that it's not such a good Idea to arm the Iranians which I hope we all can agree on . I would think that the article I posted should cause a bit of outrage.
I wouldn't call Iraq a free country excatly.Maybe you can say a bigger evil was exchanged for another big evil.But Iraq being free is not excatly true now is it?I do remember though that we went in there to get WMD's not free the country.
 
#19
jinxy said:
It doesn't matter weather those examples you sighted are true or not, most aren't . What matters is the europeans are arming the Iranians now. Is it going to cost lives and who will die because of the military capabilities be transferred? You seem to be ignoring the damage that is being done.
Your off your head, we would have to sell our own parents, the family silver and our children. To even match what the septics have already sold the Iranians.
I know it's going back in history but,
I do seem to recall our septic cousins arming Iran(or was it Persia?) with top class aircraft just prior to the Islamic revolution in 1979(?)
Yes they gave Iran some 30 F14 aircraft, an aircraft in service today with US Navy through out the world.
I know these aircraft may not be in service with Iran, but you still sold them
SO BUG*ER OFF with all this 'Is Europe arming Iran Cr*p'


Could of sworn America was the home of free trade? :twisted:
 

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