Archer?

#1
Esteemed members of the Corps. I having a senior moment, or was there a replacement system mooted for Clansman called Archer?
If there was, what were the changes compared to Clansman? For some reason frequency hopping springs to mind.
This is all just out of curiosity, I don't have a pile of mysterious green boxes in the garage or anything.

Chrs


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#2
Procurement history

The concept of Bowman dates from a 1989 UK MoD General Staff Requirement (GSR) for a system to replace the ageing Clansman radio system. The GSR was subsequently modified to accommodate post Cold War scenarios.
The procurement had a long and chequered history, with a number of consortia involved in the development and bidding process. This process culminated in the failure in 2000 of the preferred bidder, Archer, to deliver the requirement within budget and on time, and the resultant cessation of the contract by the UK MoD. The subsequent rebidding process for the contract was won by CDC Systems UK Ltd, now General Dynamics United Kingdom Ltd as prime contractor. Elements of design and manufacturing were sub-contracted to SELEX Communications (Military Specialist Communications), ITT Corporation, Harris Corporation, L-3 Communications, Blazepoint, DRS Tactical Systems, BAE Systems, GDC4S and Thales Group. AgustaWestland was responsible for training installations and classrooms for the conversion training. The procurement cost of the supply and (initial) support phase for Bowman is approximately £1.9 billion and the current acquisition cost of the whole project is £2.4 billion.
Bowman’s initial operating capability was delivered into service in March 2004, it was fully rolled out across the Armed Forces by the end of 2008 and is expected to continue in service until approximately 2026.
Source:
Bowman (communications system) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
#3
archer was one bidder who was placed against crossbow in trials but I think it all went wrong when 1 company bought another out and this meant it wasn't a fair trial.The trials were mid 90's in Blandford.
 
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#5
Thanks all.

At least it wasn't something I'd imagined. What was the frequency hopping system called that was being touted around in the 80s then, as Archer doesn't fit that bill.

JT


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#6
I worked on Green Archer - but that was a mortar bomb tracking radar.
 
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Archer Communications Systems Ltd (ACSL) was formed from the two remaining consortia in the Bowman competition at the end of the 90's (Yeoman and Crossbow). Until their contract was terminanted (end of 2000) they were based at Hedge End near Southampton. Some of the bits they developed (ADR+ for example) were carried forward into the the new contract won eventually by Computing Devices Canada (CDC).
 
#10
Thanks guys. Did Jaguar see any service with field units or was it only ever experimental, trials etc?


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#13
We used the Racal Jaguar in the Berlin Inf Bde in the mid 80s. Used for the Allied Staff comms but we were not allowed to use the freq hopping as we lived next door to the rooskies.
 
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Esteemed members of the Corps. I having a senior moment, or was there a replacement system mooted for Clansman called Archer?
If there was, what were the changes compared to Clansman? For some reason frequency hopping springs to mind.
There was also an earlier project mooted called TARGE (bonus points available to those spotting the relevance of the name), which was looking at giving greater protection to CLANSMAN. Part of it involved looking at FH radios, hence some of the (commercially available) Racal Jaguars were bought.
 

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