Archeology or voyeurism?

We were 4 to a cadaver, did, inner elbow (at that stage rules on GA were different), heart and head and neck. Took first couple of terms, so 20 weeks.
After that the medics got them, so they could go from 6 to a body down to 4 for the abdomen and limbs
I don't remember the exact details, just the headlines as it were. He has done several courses and is now an oral and maxillofacial surgeon with an office on Harley Street (and the big bucks that go with that). His wife is now a periodontics specialist. They both studied and worked hard, from fairly humble beginnings, to get where they are now.
 

Joshua Slocum

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Well they cheerfully dug up Richard III and re-interred him after they'd worked out it was really him. They had a lot of bodies from the Mary Rose, Henry VIII's flagship, which if I remember rightly they originally said were going to be buried but aren't; because there was a TV prog not long ago studying them to work out how may of the crew were foreign/coloured etc. So it appears clear that the professionals don't care much upto ~ 1550.

Personally, and I'm unlikely to be buried, but assuming I was, I wouldn't give a hoot, but that's me. My view on other people bodies is that if there are surviving identifiable relatives as with the Chester cemetery Spec-Ops mentioned they should have a say and if they want to organise a reburial that would be their call.

It's worth remembering that there were periods, not that long ago, when bodies were buried to remove the flesh and then the bones were dug back up and stored. As an obscure example I've come across recently, a lot of the bones of the war dead from the battle of Wagram in 1809 are in the crypt of the church at Markgragneusiedl. They're in a huge heap, no ID , no segregation.
Still done in Italy
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Joshua Slocum

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Brother is one such creature.
Refers to a trip to the British Museum as a "Stolen Antiquities Tour"
sometimes though its useful to have antiques stored away in a safe environment away from nutjobs, town planners and religious lunatics and revisionists
The Isis nutjobs destroyed all of the statues and artwork at Mosul
yet now craftsmen are recreating them by copying the ones in the British Museum , and then transporting them to Mosul


 

Bluenose2

Old-Salt
On the subject of bearded nose-ringers. A typical field school throws up some interesting characters.

Mad old ladies, a fair scattering of nerdy blokes, firebrand lesbian political activists, compulsive bullsh1tters, an ex Para Lt Col, a sprinkling of veterans of ill-repute (one in particular from a very hush hush background in NI), and hoards of scantily-clad female undergrads digging holes or working on all fours in front of you...

So yes, voyeurism does play a significant role in archaeology.
 
Time Team was great for a bit of down the cleavage shot from the cameraman.
 
TBH, having the sarcophagus taken out in public is a lot better than has happened to a lot of remains and discoveries in Egypt when found on building sites and developments where they are either plundered or bulldozed.
And agree about the comment on the Sweaty Man, how on Earth he is even allowed to call himself a professional is beyond me. I thought he was removed in one of the recent political upheavals, but it seems he has wormed his way back into a position of authority again.
 

Joshua Slocum

LE
Book Reviewer
TBH, having the sarcophagus taken out in public is a lot better than has happened to a lot of remains and discoveries in Egypt when found on building sites and developments where they are either plundered or bulldozed.
And agree about the comment on the Sweaty Man, how on Earth he is even allowed to call himself a professional is beyond me. I thought he was removed in one of the recent political upheavals, but it seems he has wormed his way back into a position of authority again.
Money talks !
 

chimera

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My experience of tomb raiding ends here:

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Sorry but when this lady appears on my TV screen...the world stops.
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Awol

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And agree about the comment on the Sweaty Man, how on Earth he is even allowed to call himself a professional is beyond me. I thought he was removed in one of the recent political upheavals, but it seems he has wormed his way back into a position of authority again.
You can't watch a programme about Egypt without his face being all over the screen. As he's obviously a public employee, it's safe to assume that he's not getting paid by the production company, so his prevalence must be solely down to a monster ego.
 

Gout Man

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I don't mind donating all of my organs etc. but I feel a bit queasy if my body is gonna be poked and prodded for years. Have a cousin who is a dentist and each student was 'given' a cadaver which they used over a period of about 2 years. I don't fancy that and I cannot explain why as I know, logically, that I'm dead, it's just.............
You should have a read of the book I’ve just reviewed. All that Remains by professor Sue Black.
If you or any one else reading this has the time take a look at the review and leave any comments on the discussion page.
i remember as a kid walking round the British Natural History Museum when The Tutankhamen exhibition was on. Creepy isn’t the word, one of the best days out with the parents though, something you never forget.
 
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On the subject of bearded nose-ringers. A typical field school throws up some interesting characters.

Mad old ladies, a fair scattering of nerdy blokes, firebrand lesbian political activists, compulsive bullsh1tters, an ex Para Lt Col, a sprinkling of veterans of ill-repute (one in particular from a very hush hush background in NI), and hoards of scantily-clad female undergrads digging holes or working on all fours in front of you...

So yes, voyeurism does play a significant role in archaeology.
I restrained myself from mentioning the 20somethings in crop tops, shorts and carpetfitters' kneepads strapped around their tanned legs a lá Lara Croft's pistols.
 

Bluenose2

Old-Salt
I restrained myself from mentioning the 20somethings in crop tops, shorts and carpetfitters' kneepads strapped around their tanned legs a lá Lara Croft's pistols.
One of my digs managed to get on local news. The footage they used showed me in the background standing over the trenches apparently doing nothing apart from staring down the tops of the female occupants.

I'm still suffering from RSI in my wrists and elbows. Obviously it was just from furious troweling...
 
Actually this film provides an interesting perspective on this.


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bloody hell Ive been looking for a video of that for donkeys years. I saw it on the box in about 1972 when I was a nipper
 

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