Ar Ramadi 2007

#1
Times 31 Aug 07

This is a fascinating article. I wonder if it is realistic to expect that this could have been Basra if the UK had shown the same willingness and determination as the USA. Admittedly the ethnicity issue could be used as an excuse as to why not but this is the sort of thing the British Army used to excel in.
 
#3
In an eight-page special earlier this month, Der Spiegel called Ramadi "An irritating contradiction to what the rest of the world thinks it knows about Iraq"

NTM
 
#4
Xenophon said:
Times 31 Aug 07

This is a fascinating article. I wonder if it is realistic to expect that this could have been Basra if the UK had shown the same willingness and determination as the USA.
Author of the article said:
Ramadi’s transformation is breathtaking.
...
Fifty US soldiers had been killed in the previous five months alone.
Taking into account that Basra is a huge city compared with relatively small Ramadi, Basra looks as more safe.
 
#5
KGB_resident said:
Xenophon said:
Times 31 Aug 07

This is a fascinating article. I wonder if it is realistic to expect that this could have been Basra if the UK had shown the same willingness and determination as the USA.
Author of the article said:
Ramadi’s transformation is breathtaking.
...
Fifty US soldiers had been killed in the previous five months alone.
Taking into account that Basra is a huge city compared with relatively small Ramadi, Basra looks as more safe.
KGB read that last piece in the context of the article, it says upto June 30th, none have been killed since, well just read the whole article :roll:
 
#6
Just goes to show what a bit of effort and the right amount of resources does. Helps when the local people are united though with no power struggles going on.....
 
#7
scarletto said:
KGB_resident said:
Xenophon said:
Times 31 Aug 07

This is a fascinating article. I wonder if it is realistic to expect that this could have been Basra if the UK had shown the same willingness and determination as the USA.
Author of the article said:
Ramadi’s transformation is breathtaking.
...
Fifty US soldiers had been killed in the previous five months alone.
Taking into account that Basra is a huge city compared with relatively small Ramadi, Basra looks as more safe.
KGB read that last piece in the context of the article, it says upto June 30th, none have been killed since, well just read the whole article :roll:
So the article suggests that after June 30th Ramadi is a calm peacefull city.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L0493694.htm

July 4 (Reuters)
...
RAMADI - A car bomb killed four people including two policemen near the western city of Ramadi, police said. They said 15 people were wounded.
The author claims that

On the night of June 30 a US patrol chanced upon two trucks laden with al-Qaeda fighters, weapons and explosives approaching Ramadi across the desert from the south, and two US soldiers were killed in what became known as the “Battle of Donkey Island”. But there has not been a US casualty, or major attack, since.
Note that the article was published 31 August 2007. But

http://www.allamericanpatriots.com/...y_casualty_spc_edward_l_brooks_25_dayton_ohio

August 30, 2007 -- The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier who was supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Spc. Edward L. Brooks, 25, of Dayton, Ohio, died Aug. 29 in Ramadi, Iraq, of wounds sustained from an improvised explosive device.

He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 77th Armor Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 1st Infantry Division, Schweinfurt, Germany.
RIP boy.

http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=48472
 
#8
KGB_resident said:
scarletto said:
KGB_resident said:
Xenophon said:
Times 31 Aug 07

This is a fascinating article. I wonder if it is realistic to expect that this could have been Basra if the UK had shown the same willingness and determination as the USA.
Author of the article said:
Ramadi’s transformation is breathtaking.
...
Fifty US soldiers had been killed in the previous five months alone.
Taking into account that Basra is a huge city compared with relatively small Ramadi, Basra looks as more safe.
KGB read that last piece in the context of the article, it says upto June 30th, none have been killed since, well just read the whole article :roll:
So the article suggests that after June 30th Ramadi is a calm peacefull city.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L0493694.htm

July 4 (Reuters)
...
RAMADI - A car bomb killed four people including two policemen near the western city of Ramadi, police said. They said 15 people were wounded.
The author claims that

On the night of June 30 a US patrol chanced upon two trucks laden with al-Qaeda fighters, weapons and explosives
approaching Ramadi
across the desert from the south, and two US soldiers were killed in what became known as the “Battle of Donkey Island”. But there has not been a US casualty, or major attack, since.
Note that the article was published 31 August 2007. But

http://www.allamericanpatriots.com/...y_casualty_spc_edward_l_brooks_25_dayton_ohio

August 30, 2007 -- The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier who was supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Spc. Edward L. Brooks, 25, of Dayton, Ohio, died Aug. 29 in Ramadi, Iraq, of wounds sustained from an improvised explosive device.

He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 77th Armor Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 1st Infantry Division, Schweinfurt, Germany.
RIP boy.

http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=48472
Note hopefully my bold, near Ramadi not in the Town, Spc Brooks died of wounds sustained outside Ramadi. All this is happening outside the City of Ramadi, id yes be suprised if something doesnt occur in Ramadi soon, but AT the moment its working well there.
 
#9
scarletto said:
KGB_resident said:
scarletto said:
KGB_resident said:
Xenophon said:
Times 31 Aug 07

This is a fascinating article. I wonder if it is realistic to expect that this could have been Basra if the UK had shown the same willingness and determination as the USA.
Author of the article said:
Ramadi’s transformation is breathtaking.
...
Fifty US soldiers had been killed in the previous five months alone.
Taking into account that Basra is a huge city compared with relatively small Ramadi, Basra looks as more safe.
KGB read that last piece in the context of the article, it says upto June 30th, none have been killed since, well just read the whole article :roll:
So the article suggests that after June 30th Ramadi is a calm peacefull city.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L0493694.htm

July 4 (Reuters)
...
RAMADI - A car bomb killed four people including two policemen near the western city of Ramadi, police said. They said 15 people were wounded.
The author claims that

On the night of June 30 a US patrol chanced upon two trucks laden with al-Qaeda fighters, weapons and explosives
approaching Ramadi
across the desert from the south, and two US soldiers were killed in what became known as the “Battle of Donkey Island”. But there has not been a US casualty, or major attack, since.
Note that the article was published 31 August 2007. But

http://www.allamericanpatriots.com/...y_casualty_spc_edward_l_brooks_25_dayton_ohio

August 30, 2007 -- The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier who was supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Spc. Edward L. Brooks, 25, of Dayton, Ohio, died Aug. 29 in Ramadi, Iraq, of wounds sustained from an improvised explosive device.

He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 77th Armor Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 1st Infantry Division, Schweinfurt, Germany.
RIP boy.

http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=48472
Note hopefully my bold, near Ramadi not in the Town, Spc Brooks died of wounds sustained outside Ramadi. All this is happening outside the City of Ramadi, id yes be suprised if something doesnt occur in Ramadi soon, but AT the moment its working well there.
Well, maybe there were no deaths inside Ramadi. But the battle 30th June also happened outside Ramadi. I reapeat the quote

On the night of June 30 a US patrol chanced upon two trucks laden with al-Qaeda fighters, weapons and explosives approaching Ramadi across the desert from the south
So by his remark the author meant Ramadi and nearby area. However

http://uruknet.info/?p=m35850&s1=h1

The DoD has also identified the soldier who died from an improvised explosive device blast in the vicinity of Ramadi in Al Anbar Province on Wednesday, August 29th: Specialist Edward L. Brooks, 25, of Dayton, Ohio.
It is possible to find thousands of Iraqi villages where no one American soldier was killed (inside the villages). But does it prove anything?

The insurgents are not idiots. Why should they try to operate in Ramadi with 6000-strong garrison? It is too dangerous. They attack occupants outside the city. And the result is the same.
 

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