AR-15 use in NI.

#2
I know our COP platoon carried them, during our South Armagh tours in 1977 and 1980, but dont think they were used within the rest of the battalion?
 

ugly

LE
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#3
ARB was issued them as well as the M203. COPs certainly scaled 2 per patrol.. Who got them depended upon the heirarchy, some platoons insisted the signaller and patrol commander other platoons it was ic and 2 ic only.
It allowed a little extra full auto for contact drills but apart from that and rusting to buggery not really worth much. We hung on to them after the L85 A1 was issued and also a handful of M16 A1 were issued in early 1988. The original AR15s were reputed to be original purchase for Borneo so very old and knackered.
Lsw could be carried but in my team if we wanted the firepower we took a GPMG.
 
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Mark The Convict

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#4
Our M16A1 were likewise knackered for the same reason. The first time I fired one, a clattering noise made me think that I'd set it on auto by accident. Looked down at the change lever - it was on semi. Fired again, same clattering noise. Then I realised it was the bolt carrier and buffer rattling around inside the butt!
 

ugly

LE
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#5
The recoil spring noise is very offputting especially after SLRs.
 
#6
'twas as Ugly says. I had one with a SUIT mounted and I loved it. Nice and light and pointable which was handy when inserting through a Tyrone swamp with 150 lbs of batteries in your bergan. Can't remember problems with rust but I think I remember the working parts and barrel were chromed.
 

ugly

LE
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#7
The outsides weren't chromed and the flash hider used to turn orange in minutes. Ireland where 40 days and 40 nights of rain isn't a disaster, its just summer!
 

A2_Matelot

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#12
Bloody hell ExXIX, how old is that phot? I've never seen an LMG like that before [I'm a youthful matelot] and I always thought the AR15 was a short carbine, the M4 precursor. Must read up...
 
#13
Ah, the LMG. A machine of sheer, purposeful beauty. <sigh>
 
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uncle_ho

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#14
Bloody hell ExXIX, how old is that phot? I've never seen an LMG like that before [I'm a youthful matelot] and I always thought the AR15 was a short carbine, the M4 precursor. Must read up...
The LMG I used circa 1985/86 had a date stamp of 1944 on it !
 

ugly

LE
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#15
The AR15 was the manufacturers designation, M16 was the US forces designation. the AR 15s we had were very old, we bought the first pre colt batch before the US Air Force in 1962 I believe hence the need by the late 80's for a purchase of M16 A1s from Colt.


Not great pics but still show them in use
 
#16
Ah, the LMG. A machine of sheer, purposeful beauty. <sigh>
They had all but gone by the time I rocked up but I'd rather have had one of those than a LSW.

My Browning looked as though it had been handed down since Sebastopol so hats off to the armorer for keeping the bitch alive like Triggers brush.
 

ugly

LE
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#17
The LMG I used circa 1985/86 had a date stamp of 1944 on it !
mine was in 1986 and dated 1943, a Canadian produced Mk1 with the numbers etc struck through. With an IWS and IR torch it was deadly at 500 yards on fig 11s in the night shoots.
I liked the 3 mag pouches that you were issued at NIPG for the LMG!

Sadly on deployment to Liisanelly they withdrew our guns and gave us GPMGs instead, our area had shifted to S Armagh as a pln and they decided to give us more firepower!
 

ugly

LE
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#19
I'm sure I recognise the derelicts! No insult intended, were you Resident Bn at BallyK?
 
#20
<assorted images taken out to save folk's bandwidth

These were all taken 1985/86
That last picture is a cracker - Barbour jacket, check, hands on hips, check, porn star taches, check. 80s NI green Army Ally to the max.
 

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