apres moi le deluge....

#1
Even though it is still snowing here in the Peak District today it is inevitable that there will be a thaw soon and the HUGE quantities of melt water will be rushing to the sea. If we get rain on snow it will be even worse.

Now considering the amount of flooding that we've seen over recent years one would imagine that the Environment Agency would be preparing for a major emergency.

However, I've heard no mention of this in the news at all and certainly no warnings for anybody to be prepared for it.

I live on a hill so I'm not worrying but if I was in Shrewsbury, Stroud or Cirencester I'd be buying a boat and moving all my possessions upstairs.

Thoughts?
 
#3
Personally I would not worry because Mr. Brown will take command and control and direct that the floods (if any, we are in 'global warming') recede.

He will most likely 'legislate' and appoint a 'Flood Czar' and institute a quango - 'Floods Under Control'.

Upon second thoughts, buy a boat or build an ark.
 

Trans-sane

LE
Book Reviewer
#6
"Ah!!! I can't see!!!"

Thats cos its a blinding flash of the obvious. And as such will not have been considered by the government cos they seem to much prefer reacting to disasters to quietly preventing the disasters from happening. This may because they get more column inches with the first approach. It may also be because they are that blinkered to reality...

Thoughts? Get a Yamaha or Mariner two-stroke outboard for you boat. They are utterly bombproof and will last forever. Make sure you also buy LOTS of spare sheer pins if the motor needs them as well...
 
#7
I'm not normally very impressed by the way local government does anything, but it should be noted that Gwent and Rhonda Cynon Taf (I think) councils already have snowmelt flood plans ready.

They could be crap plans, of course, but at least someone did something.
 

the_boy_syrup

LE
Book Reviewer
#8
Gordon "Canute" Brown will face the tide and order it back

Either that or Mandleson will order two of everything on the Ark he built when he heard Gordons plans

I live in York it'll flood the same council that has been appealing for 4 x 4 owners to help deliver meals will blame global warming on them
 
#9
Look, stop worrying will you. Everything is under control because the Environment Agency says so. Right now there are no Flood Warning or Flood Watches.

But not everybody shares that view:

Sandbags ordered as York braced for flooding when snow melts

"If the snow melts quickly, it could cause the River Ouse to swell to a dangerous level, leaving houses and businesses vulnerable.

The situation has sparked fears that York could be on the brink of scenes reminiscent of 28 years ago, when weeks of snow and ice were followed by a quick thaw and rain. "


http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/484..._as_York_braced_for_flooding_when_snow_melts/

So, by the time the floods are in full spate all those much trumpeted shipments of road salt will have arrived. Which will be very useful
 
#10
I too live on a hill but I keep a 12ft Avon RIB and a 41/2hp Yammy just in case in my shed, the big shed not the smallone, I keep my bikes in that.
 
#11
tropper66 said:
I too live on a hill but I keep a 12ft Avon RIB and a 41/2hp Yammy just in case in my shed, the big shed not the smallone, I keep my bikes in that.
Unlikely to get all the animals in two by two, though.
 

the_boy_syrup

LE
Book Reviewer
#12
Blogg said:
Look, stop worrying will you. Everything is under control because the Environment Agency says so. Right now there are no Flood Warning or Flood Watches.

But not everybody shares that view:

Sandbags ordered as York braced for flooding when snow melts

"If the snow melts quickly, it could cause the River Ouse to swell to a dangerous level, leaving houses and businesses vulnerable.

The situation has sparked fears that York could be on the brink of scenes reminiscent of 28 years ago, when weeks of snow and ice were followed by a quick thaw and rain. "


http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/484..._as_York_braced_for_flooding_when_snow_melts/

So, by the time the floods are in full spate all those much trumpeted shipments of road salt will have arrived. Which will be very useful
My bold
28 years ago how dare they we didn't have global warming then
Don't they mean like it does every years or like 2003 when we had Chinnooks flying sandbags round the town or they were waterskiing on the racecourse?
 
#13
When the Cardiff Bay Barrage was built the Environment Agency carried out a ground water survey and reported that the Barrage would prevent flooding in the area for the next hundred years, but, last month on the spring tide it flooded the "Torchwood" set, so much for their very expensive survey
 
#14
angular said:
EX_STAB said:
I live on a hill ....

Thoughts?
You might end up with a lot of neighbours?
I, too, live on a hill and am quite looking forward to global warming and the ability to park the boat at the bottom of the garden!

The, er, new neighbours will be deterred by the AP mines and the multiple rows of barbed wire hidden deep in the large holly hedge!

:D

Lits
 
#15
tropper66 said:
When the Cardiff Bay Barrage was built the Environment Agency carried out a ground water survey and reported that the Barrage would prevent flooding in the area for the next hundred years, but, last month on the spring tide it flooded the "Torchwood" set, so much for their very expensive survey
See, there's always a positive aspect...

CW

Quis Separabit

Vestigia Nulla Retrorsum
 
#16
I wonder what the insurance companies will make of it this time? In the last spate of floods, ISTR there was some talk of refusing cover to people who'd been repeatedly flooded out?
 
#17
Litotes said:
I, too, live on a hill and am quite looking forward to global warming and the ability to park the boat at the bottom of the garden!

The, er, new neighbours will be deterred by the AP mines and the multiple rows of barbed wire hidden deep in the large holly hedge!

:D

Lits
You've disappointed me there, Litotes. I'd have expected a gentleman of your calibre to park his boat at Cannes or Monte Carlo, at the very least!

Regards to all from Dorset, where we're a bit behind, and only expecting our snowfall to arrive tomorrow. By which time the papers and news bulletins will be full of you Northerners and your floods!
 
#18
smartascarrots said:
I wonder what the insurance companies will make of it this time? In the last spate of floods, ISTR there was some talk of refusing cover to people who'd been repeatedly flooded out?
Mostly submerged in a large dollop of Government inspired fudge.

"The ABI members have agreed three categories of insurance provision, based on the annual statistical chance of flooding in a given area and local flood defence investment plans:

Low
The chance of flooding each year is 0.5% (1 in 200) or less

Moderate
The chance of flooding each year is 1.3% (1 in 75) or less, but greater than 0.5% (1 in 200)

Significant
The chance of flooding each year is greater than 1.3% (1 in 75)

Insurers will not guarantee to provide cover in all circumstances.

In Low and Moderate areas where Environment Agency data indicates the annual probability of flooding is less than 1.3% (1 in 75) chance taking flood defences into account, ABI members will offer flood cover in the
normal way on buildings and contents policies to homeowners and small businesses. This applies to both existing policyholders and new customers.

In areas where defences will be improved to this standard by September 2007, ABI members will also continue to provide cover to existing policyholders, provided the standard of protection to be offered is 1.3% (1 in 75) chance or better. Furthermore, where a homeowner in one of
these areas sells their property, their current insurer will continue to provide cover, subject to satisfactory information about the new homeowners. For small businesses changing ownership,
ABI members will seek to continue cover, subject to satisfactory information on the new owners and, for example, any plans on change in use of the premises.

In Significant risk areas where no improvements in permanent defences are planned or feasible and the annual chance of flooding is more than 1.3% (1 in 75), insurers will not guarantee to provide cover in all cases.

However, where there is a history of flooding insurers will use best efforts to work with policyholders to establish on a case-by-case basis, what action they, the Environment Agency and the Local Authority can take to enable cover to be continued.

This may include, for example temporary barriers which are deployed prior to flooding or measures that homeowners can take to reduce damage like removable household flood products which homeowners can buy and fit themselves to protect their property or construction materials
which reduce damage if the house is flooded."


http://www.eastriding.gov.uk/EasySiteWeb/GatewayLink.aspx?alId=6476

Stark truth is that whilst an existing insurer might continue to provide cover for a flood-prone property in exchange for a suitable premium if "appropriate" steps are taken, no guarantee that will survive a change of ownership or insurer.
 
#19
lsquared said:
Personally I would not worry because Mr. Brown will take command and control and direct that the floods (if any, we are in 'global warming') recede.
Yes, the thread title is certainly apposite for Cyclops - he's distinctly Bourbonesque in his serene detachment from reality. Trouble is, just as it wasn't Louis XV who eventually paid the price to Madame la Guillotine, he'll be safe with his gold-plated pension and peerage while the rest of us try to keep our heads (in this case, above the financial floodwaters).

BTW, your allusion to poor old Canute is really quite unfair: his watery demo (on the banks of the Trent, IIRC) was meant to ridicule the sycophants around him. Some hope of Cyclops trying that one!
 
#20
Grownup_Rafbrat said:
Litotes said:
I, too, live on a hill and am quite looking forward to global warming and the ability to park the boat at the bottom of the garden!

The, er, new neighbours will be deterred by the AP mines and the multiple rows of barbed wire hidden deep in the large holly hedge!

:D

Lits
You've disappointed me there, Litotes. I'd have expected a gentleman of your calibre to park his boat at Cannes or Monte Carlo, at the very least!
Thank you, G_R, for your concern. I hadn't quite managed to arrange mooring rights in Sandbanks when my yacht returned to the UK from Cannes, which was the reason behind my original post. In part, this was because I was concerned about the quality of my potential neighbours but, unfortunately, the Harbour Master told my captain that he would not dredge the navigation channel to a sufficient depth in order to permit the SS Litotes to come close inshore. :(

I was planning that, once Global Warming set in, I would be able to sail straight up to Litotes Towers, in time for tea.

Pray do not worry on my behalf as, in order to hasten things in my direction, I am currently burning oak trees like there is no tomorrow. :D

Perhaps you would like to join me on-board the next time I am moored close by? The Russian oligarchs are usually quite acceptable company but the British politicians can be hell....

Litotes
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