AOSB Breifing failure (Medical Appeal)

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  1. Hi I'm Looking for some constructive advice.
    General Information:
    I'm a student 3rd year will have a degree by end of 2010 (hopefully)
    U.O.T.C. cadet for 2 yrs (left to concentrate on final year)
    I failed A.O.S.B. Briefing -CAT4 (much to my embarrassment)

    Why I failed-
    Interview lacked personality until I was asked questions on familiar subjects.
    Lacked influence in command tasks, although came up with many good ideas.
    Below average MAPS test result knock on effect terrible plan ex (couldn't think straight)

    I noticed a lump in my neck prior to A.O.S.B.(I thought it was a pulled muscle from pull ups). It then blew right up a few days after A.O.S.B. Briefing- couldn't move my neck at all-4 months down the line, 1 operation later I find out I've got cancer. I did my A.O.S.B. in 2009 -if I can remember early October.

    At the time i accepted that CAT4 meant I just didn't have what it takes, but now I'm not so sure- I know I'm not an idiot and I think I could have been suffering the affects of the cancer even as early as the A.O.S.B., I'm about to embark on Chemo, I've been told this cancer has a good success rate among the young.

    The Question: Is it worth contacting my sponsor and trying to appeal so i can go again to briefing later in life with Hopefully a clean slate to match my clean bill of health, or is it too late and Should I just accept the hand I've been dealt.

    thanks to anyone who replies with helpful advice.
  2. Sorry to hear about your situation, hope all is well. you may have to wait a few years before you can reapply, but if you really want it and its feasable you could always give it another go....winston churchill apparently failed 3 times :O
  3. You need to get on to the medics (via your recruiters).

    Some cancers are an absolute bar to enlisting. Others may not be, but will need to be considered in detail by specialists and decisions are made on a case by case basis. As a minimum, you can expect to be able to demonstrate a lengthy period of remission.

    Good luck with your treatment, and all future plans.
  4. No idea about the medical issue, but hope things work out
  5. cpunk

    cpunk LE Moderator

    It is always worth asking the question but, to be honest, I very much doubt you will get the reply that you want at present. I think it is unlikely that AOSB will think that your cancer significantly affected your performance at the briefing. Having said that, in a couple of years time, once you've beaten it and got a clean bill of health, you will be in a position to argue that you are a very different person, so keep the idea on the back burner for then.

    In the meantime, good luck with everything.
  6. Is it non hodgkins lymphoma? either that or straight Lymphoma. Chances are it would probably have not effected you in terms of mental performance, however it may have given you unbalance of hormone levels and other functions, and basic body metabolism. I guess an indication would be how you did or were doing in your degree course at the time.

    Also survival rates and cures tend to work on a 5 year rate, so it would be hard for you to get a 'clean bill of health' as some people are talking about with cancer. However there are loads of examples out there of people doing amazing things post cancer (Lance armstrong among others)

    Just so you don't feel I'm spouting nonsense I work in oncology and deal with cancer patients all day if you want to pm me any questions feel free.

    Good luck
  7. Thankyou all for your messages It's given me a clear no nonsense idea of where I stand. I think in terms of closure- I will look into it further.

    From what I can gather it's unlikely that I'll be able to try again as my sponsor told me CAT4 is very much a 'no' to becoming an officer from a civilian stand point. Apparently I'd have to be a member of the armed forces and I would have to be recommended for officer training by my superiors to ever stand a chance of commissioning. From what I was aware the medical appeal was the only chance to try again in civilian life.

    No matter what, it seems that all aspects of life are very much on a back burner right now. I guess I just want something more to aim for than just getting my health back, My ambition has always been to become a soldier.
    Like the Rolling Stones said 'you can't always get what you want'.

    None the less thank you all for your advice and also for your supportive words.
  8. Not the end of the world. Join up after failing AOSB. Thats what I'm doing!

    Just clarify your medical stuff. Somewhere on the regular joining forum is a medical thread. Read up on what it says about your med condition. Its by the book when I turned up. Same guidelines the doctor uses.

    All the best
  9. Intensive_Careborne I just want to say that I hope things work out for you and getting your health and things sorted.

    It might be a good idea to think about the reasons that you wanted to join the Army in the first place and then find a job with similar qualities. I know that's what Ill be doing if things don't work out for me.

    Keep positive and I'm sure there are lots of options for you, you just have to get out there and start looking. Maybe talk to your careers advisor at uni who should be able to point you in the right direction?

    Best of luck!

    jk22, just out of curiosity, if you're going for regular Army do you have to start from scratch all over again? And how long does that take?

    Just wondering in case I'll need to go along the same route....
  10. In theory, they should be able to use the same RG8 info as itll already be on the system. Youd still have to take the BARB and do the medical, interview etc though.
  11. Well I know no one is probably going to read this again, But I thought I'd round it off. After 8 months of grueling Chemotherapy, I am in remission and have been clear for about 6 months, I now have hair and eyebrows and my fitness and energy levels back to normal. I also bagged a 2:1 for my degree too, so all in all a Hollywood ending.
    I will say that Hodgkins Lymphoma does impair you when it comes to concentration/energy levels etc and the treatment itself is the single worst thing I’ve ever had to endure. If anybody does read this I would like to know if I do have to wait the customary 5 years or if I can prove myself fit to join earlier TA or regs? If anyone would like to support a charity other than Help for heroes I can highly recommend Clic Sergeant, they are good people.
    Thanks again for all your advice
  12. Well done and keep fighting.

    If you really want to try AOSB again then give yourself a year before reapplying. Provided the medical hurdles can be overcome there's no reason why they wouldn't look at you again as inother respects you appear to meet the entry criteria. If you can get past the medical make sure you work on the things that held you back before (lots of practice interviews and MAP test questions). If you get there you will be assessed on your performance on the day and not raltive to what you may have done last time.
  13. I am really glad you pulled through and got the 2:1. Hollywood ending? Did you get the girl as well and in true arrse style any photos? ;)

    as Cpunk said, its worth going back to them after awhile and giving them your medical history, all clear and combining it with life changing, your twice the person you used to be with greater values of what's important in life etc. Lets face it you won't lose anything by not trying and if you do get another chance then best of luck to you.

    After a few years in that scar on your neck will just be a war wound from the stan anyway ;)

    good luck