Anyone think this could work?

#1
Ok, so for a long time Ive been thinking about this and im not sure if it would work but im going to share my theory anyway....

The Firebrigade is Disbanded with their mandate passed onto the British Army. Obviously the Firebrigade budget would be passed onto the British Army along with all training and equipment.

Obviously their would be a manning increase to cope with this and soldiers would be posted to Firefighting duties for perhaps a year at a time.

Pros-
No More Strikes
More Trained Soldiers (Just incase total war comes along)
Soldiers get to spend time near their home with family etc....
Any more ideas?

Cons-
Ill let you guys fill this in


And Yes, I am Bored, This is a Bone Thread but i figure it leaves space for some good old fashioned mockery of the firebrigade
 
#3
The Army will not be covering for the Fire Service anymore. The security firm RELIANCE had been awarded the contract to provide cover by the Govt and has recently been holding courses for their Staff to teach them how to use the Green Goddesses.

MM
 
#5
Thats the thing, Soldiers get a pay rise and a year on "splash and dash" would be good for morale as the lads and lasses get to spend time near family
 
#7
PanzerBerk said:
Hmmm, but what about Fireman Sam?
He can join the TA
 
#8
Disband fire brigades throughout the country - create a charitable volunteer fire service, with funding from subscription.

Each household pays an annual £10 subscription to their local fire brigade, those that don't subscribe get a £500+ callout fee (payable after the event) - volunteer firefighters are members of the local community who get an a callout payment, training payments, and a significant annual bonus.

Do the same for ambulance, police, mountain rescue and lifeboats - if you aren't a subscriber, you get a callout charge, enforceable through the courts.

Nice and simple, and replaces taxes and layers of bureaucrats with a local service
 
#10
In france, local emergency services are organised on paramilitary lines. Its a great idea.
Completely blue sky, but here goes............
Local stations would be manned by appropriately trained Blue/green/light blue staff, as part of their normal harmony time. ( under the command of a Chief Stoker of course).
FB support functions will be decivilianised, and placed under the remit of the appropriate SMEs, so Veh Maint goes to REME/Comms goes to Rsigs etc.
The money spent on the civ FB/Ambulances goes to the Mod budget, current members of the FBU are allowed to transfer over with generous "grandfather rights".

If only it was possible
 
#11
This is obviously a job for the Senior Service. Each of us does a full, one day course in fire fighting at HMS Phoenix (now known as HMS Phoenix plc - a Walt Disney company).

This enables us to learn:-

a) Which end of the hose to point at the fire

b) That the little valve in the front of your breathing apparatus mask is commonly known as the 'tit' and it needs to be pulled out or pushed in at various times.

c) That the senior rates running the course take great delight in shouting 'GET YOUR TITS OUT LADIES' at female trainees who forget to pull the valve out at the appropriate time.

d) How to switch on the thermal imaging camera and use it to locate a cold, empty pit in a darkened mess if you arrive aboard ship in the dead of night. Thereby avoiding trying to get in to bed with one of your new shipmates - a criminal offence in my day.
 
#13
labrat said:
Each household pays an annual £10 subscription to their local fire brigade, those that don't subscribe get a £500+ callout fee (payable after the event)
Problem - Those who are most likely to have a house fire are exactly the same sort of people of are least likely to stump up the cash in the first place.

Keep the current lot, but make it illegal for them to strike. Simple.
 

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#15
MittMayo said:
The Army will not be covering for the Fire Service anymore. The security firm RELIANCE had been awarded the contract to provide cover by the Govt and has recently been holding courses for their Staff to teach them how to use the Green Goddesses.MM
Do they go to Withams and ask for the names and address' of everyone that bought them?



Too much time of for the Army

Can you imagine a regiment on four on four off with two nights sleeping duties

All having second jobs

No Never work theres nothing there for the lads to enjoy :wink:
 
#18
Not able to contribute as I don't really have the information to give an opinion being septic sort.

But:

A question. When your fire strike was in the news a few years ago they described the military, navy etc using the "Green Goddesses " which are reserve fire apparatus. What I have never understood is why the military providing strike coverage did not simply use the normal apparatus that was already in place in the existing fire stations/fire halls/ fire ?? (not sure of the UK term).

By the way, in many cities in the US now the fire service does one 24 hour shift every 4 days. In my city they also get 17.5 24 hour shifts as vacation every year. This equals 10 weeks vacation each year. I have worked for the same city for over 30 years and get 5 weeks.

I tell my friends in the fire service that there are only two occupations where you earn money while lying in bed with a red light outside the door.
 
#19
DavidBOC said:
Not able to contribute as I don't really have the information to give an opinion being septic sort.

But:

A question. When your fire strike was in the news a few years ago they described the military, navy etc using the "Green Goddesses " which are reserve fire apparatus. What I have never understood is why the military providing strike coverage did not simply use the normal apparatus that was already in place in the existing fire stations/fire halls/ fire ?? (not sure of the UK term).

By the way, in many cities in the US now the fire service does one 24 hour shift every 4 days. In my city they also get 17.5 24 hour shifts as vacation every year. This equals 10 weeks vacation each year. I have worked for the same city for over 30 years and get 5 weeks.

I tell my friends in the fire service that there are only two occupations where you earn money while lying in bed with a red light outside the door.

The equipment is technical most of us aren’t, if we brake a green goddess no problem brake a £¼ million Fire Appliance big problem. In a short time it easier to train a soldier to point a fairly low powered hose at some ones soon to be ex house and say we have 100% fire coverage than spend time and money on training us how to use all that fancy gear most of which we would steal just because we can..
 
#20
cbgramc said:
The equipment is technical most of us aren’t, if we brake a green goddess no problem brake a £¼ million Fire Appliance big problem. In a short time it easier to train a soldier to point a fairly low powered hose at some ones soon to be ex house and say we have 100% fire coverage than spend time and money on training us how to use all that fancy gear most of which we would steal just because we can..
I think you'll find that the reason was that the firewatchers stated that they'd refuse ever to use a fire engine that had been "contaminated" by the Army. The Army was prevented from using the useful kit to avoid the risk of each Fire Brigade having to buy new machines when the strikers went back to work.

Scum. Blackmailing tw@s.
 

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