Anyone know how to find if a German Night Fighter pilot is still alive

ugly

LE
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#1
Just because the descendants of the crew of the plane this chap Walter Briegleb shot down are curious. The records show him taking two Halifax mk3 on the night of 5th Jan 45, one was my Grandads crew and another about 10 minutes either side of 1900 hrs.
The other relatives want to clear up the usual anomolies in records and personal memories handed down etc.
I said I would help as they have been generous with all the stuff I didnt know about Grandad!
 
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ugly

LE
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#4
Nah its all about the general air war rather than the enemy, I need to find out if the German Pilot is still alive!
 
#5
Right, try this site; it`s run by some Dutch people who have masses of info about both sides I think....and it`s free! They ask for some basic details and conduct a search for you.

Bomber Command Association

Once again, best of luck.
 
#6
You'll have to go around German nursing homes shout "Achtung! Spitfire!" - and see who either looks up or tries to do a steep bank to port....


A mate's pa-in-law (ex-SS) traced a bunch of mates from a Wermacht unit via the German ministry that doles out veterans' pensions. Not sure what the details are, but that would be a fairly failsafe way of finding the bloke.
 

the_boy_syrup

LE
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#7
It says here that he survived the war with 25 kills.

Google him it brings up loads.

Zoltanski
 

ugly

LE
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#9
Cheers I googled him but didn't look at zoltanski, we know he was alive in 2010 as he met the chancellor, they are looking for him now! Rock you may have misunderstood me I was looking for the German Pilot and all of those are about allied aircrew!
Thanks folks
 
#10
Tricky stuff, ugly. It's a hell of a ghost to put to rest. Sleeping dogs and all that.
 

Ravers

LE
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#11
Bit late to be getting revenge now, the ****** is gonna be 90 odd.

Having said that I'm always up for a bit of pensioner bashing so if you need a hand when you find him, let me know.
 

ugly

LE
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#12
Tricky stuff, ugly. It's a hell of a ghost to put to rest. Sleeping dogs and all that.
Speaking to the son of the surviving flt engineer on the phone was very difficult. He approached me as I put a memoriam note on my blog.
Mum and I visited gramps grave in Sage on the 60th anniversary and I learnt a lot from my nan just before she died!
The internet has a lot to answer for but there is no animosity, Grandads family came from Germany only about 100 years before to Canada via Yorkshire. Gramps and gt gramps both fought for the crown. Yes there are ghosts but to be honest apart from the manner of his passing it has all been a pleasant journey of discovery!
I'm not fussed about the night fighter pilot but the two sons of survivors want to get all the details right!


Some mornings its hardly worth chewing through the straps!
 

ugly

LE
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#13
Thanks for the offer Ravers!
20 years ago perhaps

Some mornings its hardly worth chewing through the straps!
 
#14
Speaking to the son of the surviving flt engineer on the phone was very difficult. He approached me as I put a memoriam note on my blog.
Mum and I visited gramps grave in Sage on the 60th anniversary and I learnt a lot from my nan just before she died!
The internet has a lot to answer for but there is no animosity, Grandads family came from Germany only about 100 years before to Canada via Yorkshire. Gramps and gt gramps both fought for the crown. Yes there are ghosts but to be honest apart from the manner of his passing it has all been a pleasant journey of discovery!
I'm not fussed about the night fighter pilot but the two sons of survivors want to get all the details right!


Some mornings its hardly worth chewing through the straps!
Then perhaps you're looking for an anonymous channel of communication. You may not be fussed, but the night fighter pilot may be. On the other hand, he may welcome the opportunity. It's been done before.

Being a Luftwaffe pilot in early 45 and surviving is a tale in itself.
 

ugly

LE
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#15
Well the ball is in the court of the sons now! It has been done before and now there is only one surviving wife of the bomber aircrew, all the others now have passed away!
I would have liked to have known them before they left us!
At least I have the letter from my nan to my mum about gramps which was the dustiest I have ever read!
I would also given the opportunity to tell the pilot no hard feelings, after all we had just bombed his schnelle imbis!

Some mornings its hardly worth chewing through the straps!
 

ugly

LE
Moderator
#18
According to Das Telefonbuch Deutschland - Online Telefonauskunft - Teleauskunft - Telefonnummer - Telefonverzeichnis



Briegleb Walter Dr.

Im Hasengarten 7

50996 Köln - Hahnwald

02236 6 42 77



away you go... Ich Moechte mit Dr Briegleb sprechen, bitte...
Thanks and also to everyone! We think it could be his son as a 90 year old would be retired!
I'm leaving it with the two sons now, I'm just an observer on this ride!


Some mornings its hardly worth chewing through the straps!
 
#19
Another thing you could try is contacting the RAF Air Historical Branch. They could put you in contact with their Luftwaffe equivalent.

We did the same for a Polish WW2 fighter pilot who enquired about his first "kill", a Henschel recce plane shot down on the morning of 1 September 1939. Our mate landed next to their downed plane, got them out and saw that they were looked after by some passing Ulani before taking off to cause more mayhem amongst the invaders!

We were eventually able to hook them all up...

Good luck on this one.
 

ugly

LE
Moderator
#20
Cheers sort of luftwaffe bundesarchiv?
I'll ask the lads

Some mornings its hardly worth chewing through the straps!
 

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