Anyone have any experience of dealinng with the Jordainians?

#1
Hi to one and all, I have a Jordanian Client who is giving me the run around over a contract does anyone have any contacts in the Military out their so that I can get a clearer picture of what I am dealing with? All help gratefully received.:x
 

TheIronDuke

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#2
Hi to one and all, I have a Jordanian Client who is giving me the run around over a contract does anyone have any contacts in the Military out their so that I can get a clearer picture of what I am dealing with? All help gratefully received.:x
Hi Drew and welcome to possibly the most remote corner of ARRSE where we talk about stuff relating to NE England.

Does your Jordanian client just want a 'happy ending', or has he mentioned sheep, goats, donkeys or poultry?
 
#3
May be his 'client' is in the north east of Jordan, e.g. Al Jimal, Safawi, Ar Ruwaishid, near the border with I-raq? Care to elaborate skin drewer?
 
#4
Not sure he's supposed to be buying kit for the Jordanian Military but he keeps hanging his F*****g mind on what he wants and how much also when I ask him to go firm on numbers he throws his dummy out of the pram and starts to sulk like a big kid is this normal? I know the rag heads cand be a bit up them selves but this is business for F**k sake.:pissedoff:
 
#5
I know the rag heads cand be a bit up them selves but this is business for F**k sake.:pissedoff:
At least you show great enthusiasm for, and insight into, your potential business partners background, so he isn't technically your client yet then? I am not going to gratify this nonesense with an answer. I claim a WAH. Haven't the school holidays ended? Actually looking at your posts you could have posted the first one after school yesterday and the second one this morning before PE with Mr. tight pants perhaps? Be it as it may, if you encounter HM King Abdullah's wife, Queen Rania, tell her Viceroy would and could...
 
#6
Not sure he's supposed to be buying kit for the Jordanian Military but he keeps hanging his F*****g mind on what he wants and how much also when I ask him to go firm on numbers he throws his dummy out of the pram and starts to sulk like a big kid is this normal? I know the rag heads cand be a bit up them selves but this is business for F**k sake.:pissedoff:
Tell him to get a grip or you will sell the equipment to the Israelis. Job Jobbed.
 
#8
I don't think that incentivising him is the way ahead, more like giving him a slap and telling him to get a grip. still we will see what he has to say for him self at our next conference call
 
#9
I don't think that incentivising him is the way ahead, more like giving him a slap and telling him to get a grip. still we will see what he has to say for him self at our next conference call
You've not quite got the hang of this business malarkey yet have you? :)

Try their Military Attache in London

Maj. Gen. Adar Alshanableh

02079 379611
 
#10
No, I have a good grip of the business side of life it's just I cant be doing with petulant arrogant people who assume they can get their own way by going into some kind of juvenile strop just because a company is unwilling to just give their products away for free.

I have tried six ways from Sunday to let this guy down gently about what he's not getting and he has just stopped listening. I think he has forgotten that we are the named supplier and his client knows the price they should be paying. He is just an agent for purchasing purposes.
 
#11
You've not quite got the hang of this business malarkey yet have you? :)

Try their Military Attache in London

Maj. Gen. Adar Alshanableh

02079 379611
What is your beef with the good Maj Gen for posting his details on this website? I think our junior member has it figured out just fine, why else would he come to this place to seek advice?
 
#13
well that proves a point the Jordanians have pulled out. They have stated unwillingness on behalf of their agent to do business so they will buy our product through our main area distributor. win win for us I think.
 
#14
What is your beef with the good Maj Gen for posting his details on this website?

Public domain innit. Unless of course the General's a member of a mukhabarat. In which case Sandmanfez is screwed.

I've worked in Jordan and I have to say they have a very direct way of dealing with issues that can be very un-Arabic.

I was crossing from Iraq to Jordan and I encountered a particularly officious security policeman who wouldn't give my passport back. My own security adviser/fixer had actually been a member of Jordan's mukhabarat (no duff) - he ran around behind the counter, clipped the copper around the ear and gave me my passport back.

The best thing we these buggers is to act insulted and walk away - he'll then ring you, talk about everything but the deal and then finally come to terms.
 

TheIronDuke

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#16
well that proves a point the Jordanians have pulled out. They have stated unwillingness on behalf of their agent to do business so they will buy our product through our main area distributor. win win for us I think.
Jesus. Look son. One doesnt want to start because you are one of Gods chosen people. But here is some impartial advice from the Min of Ag and Fish (Retired).

When dealing with your Arabics, it is all about the bung. You are not negotiating on the conract, because if what you have told us is Kosher, you are too far down the food chain to negotiate. It is a prefered supplier done deal so you are negotiating logistics, not money.

In order to do that, you need to present a 'gift' to your man. To show some respect, yeah?

Otherwise he will deal with your VAR. Which you might think is a 'win-win' you dozy git. It is not. Because although he will buy your product from you, through your VAR, he will buy every other product from your VAR and not you.

You just lost the opportunity to sell all sorts of tat, direct to the man who signs it off.

You support Sunderland. Dont you?
 
#17
I have dealt extensively with Jordanians,with regard to the purchase of special equipment.As has been pointed out,you need to deal at a high level,and make friends in the right area.If the kit you are selling,is available in US,they will probably get the US Govt to gift it to them! Their Int HQ was,after all,a free gift from the US.

Jesus. Look son. One doesnt want to start because you are one of Gods chosen people. But here is some impartial advice from the Min of Ag and Fish (Retired).

When dealing with your Arabics, it is all about the bung. You are not negotiating on the conract, because if what you have told us is Kosher, you are too far down the food chain to negotiate. It is a prefered supplier done deal so you are negotiating logistics, not money.

In order to do that, you need to present a 'gift' to your man. To show some respect, yeah?

Otherwise he will deal with your VAR. Which you might think is a 'win-win' you dozy git. It is not. Because although he will buy your product from you, through your VAR, he will buy every other product from your VAR and not you.

You just lost the opportunity to sell all sorts of tat, direct to the man who signs it off.

You support Sunderland. Dont you?
 
#18
Jesus. Look son. One doesnt want to start because you are one of Gods chosen people. But here is some impartial advice from the Min of Ag and Fish (Retired).

When dealing with your Arabics, it is all about the bung. You are not negotiating on the conract, because if what you have told us is Kosher, you are too far down the food chain to negotiate. It is a prefered supplier done deal so you are negotiating logistics, not money.

In order to do that, you need to present a 'gift' to your man. To show some respect, yeah?

Otherwise he will deal with your VAR. Which you might think is a 'win-win' you dozy git. It is not. Because although he will buy your product from you, through your VAR, he will buy every other product from your VAR and not you.

You just lost the opportunity to sell all sorts of tat, direct to the man who signs it off.

You support Sunderland. Dont you?
1st Sunderland, oh that will be football, I'd rather chew my own foot off than watch that crap. I proffer rugby and as such I support the Falcons for what it's worth.

2nd you assume that I am lower down the food chain, there again you are wrong. I deal with all clients large and small and I do have the authority to negotiate. as for a bung in the defence industry that is the fast track to losing your clients and your job.

3rd The US do gift a lot to a lot of countries but in the 21st century where budgets are squeezed I think you'll find that the US wont be gifting anything to anyone.
 
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jhon12

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#19
1st Sunderland, oh that will be football, I'd rather chew my own foot off than watch that crap. I proffer rugby and as such I support the Falcons for what it's worth.

2nd you assume that I am lower down the food chain, there again you are wrong. I deal with all clients large and small and I do have the authority to negotiate. as for a bung in the defence industry that is the fast track to losing your clients and your job.

3rd The US do gift a lot to a lot of countries but in the 21st century where budgets are squeezed I think you'll find that the US wont be gifting anything to anyone.


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