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Anyone else threaders with hearing about Syria...?

#1
I, for one, are sick to the back teeth of hearing about Syria and the Arab ******* Spring.

Can't the news channels move on with somthing more interesting, like anything to do with the current situation at home, for instance.
 
#2
Would you prefer the BBC would make the claim/report that the Indian man that got shot dead was mistaken for a pakistani because your average dumb youth can't tell the difference !!!

In all honesty do you also think that the BBC would actually highlight the similarities between Daffy Duck and Assad of how citizens were killed and where Mr Hague made a point of highlighting a death of a 13yr old kid in Parliment when not one member of the house asked why we are in Libya on the basis of defending / helping Libyans when the exact ******* same carnage was also happening in Syria .
 
#5
I, for one, are sick to the back teeth of hearing about Syria and the Arab ******* Spring.

Can't the news channels move on with somthing more interesting, like anything to do with the current situation at home, for instance.
More interesting? ...... What, like the recession :?

British News specialises in doom and gloom.

Fact ...... You would get more joy watching a good adult porn film! :)

All Journalists are merchants of misery.... Some are even phone hacking masters.

Who is rifling through your bins tonight?
 
#6
Well to be fair, if no-one's going to do anything about it, i'm not sure seeing it on the news every night has much of a point. My 2p.
 
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PrinceAlbert

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#8
I quite like watching Arabs kill other Arabs. It's a shame the footage isn't better. I'd pay-per-view that shit.
 
#9
Genocide is worthy of media reporting IMO.

You could always turn over?
Over use of a misunderstood word.........it is hardly Genocide, it is fecking nasty but it is nowhere near being on the scale of Bosnia, Rwanada etc. Emotive language is partly the reason why people become de-sensitised to shit like this, more so when people apply the term Genocide to the deaths of a few thousand individuals.
 
#10
More interesting? ...... What, like the recession :?

British News specialises in doom and gloom.

Fact ...... You would get more joy watching a good adult porn film! :)

All Journalists are merchants of misery.... Some are even phone hacking masters.

Who is rifling through your bins tonight?
I will pay you to set yourself on fire
 

ehwhat

Old-Salt
Book Reviewer
#11
I'm afraid that I do find it all interesting. The activities in the area are interconnected to a remarkable degree. I think it fair to say that our interests are in play and the final outcome is likely to be important.
 

BuggerAll

LE
Kit Reviewer
Book Reviewer
#13
Oil! Syria may not have it but they can affect those countries that do. There is also the small matter of world stability, trade and oil.

The Arab world is very interconnected as is the wider world. We are affected by having loons like Assad in charge generating instability in that region. We're also likely to be affected by instability in Syria.

Stability and democracy in the Middle East are in our interest.
 
#14
Stability and democracy in the Middle East are in our interest.
I think it's not at all certain that the two go hand in hand. Democratically elected governments in the PA haven't exactly brought peace and stability to the region.

Personally, I'm quite happy that the news keeps me informed on major events in strategically-crucial parts of the world. It's what I believe my licence fee to be for - to inform and educate as well as to entertain.
 
#15
Oil! Syria may not have it but they can affect those countries that do. There is also the small matter of world stability, trade and oil.

The Arab world is very interconnected as is the wider world. We are affected by having loons like Assad in charge generating instability in that region. We're also likely to be affected by instability in Syria.

Stability and democracy in the Middle East are in our interest.
Syria has been merrily murdering its own people for years
Syria: Bloody Challenge to Assad - TIME
And we didnt give a shit, it didnt seem to affect oil, trade or stability. Has it taken 40 years for us to suddenly realise he (and his dad) were not very nice people?

As to democracy, I see its all going well in Iraq. Who did those palestinians vote to run the Gaza strip?
 

ehwhat

Old-Salt
Book Reviewer
#16
My apologies for being absent. Syria is a linchpin between Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, Israel and Iran. Its earlier visible involvement/competition with Egypt assisted in several wars that needn't have taken place. Materials, funds, supplies, support, asylum and people all funnel through that area. The Alawite minority, which most of us knew as Nusairis, are a branch of Shia Islam that was considered unorthodox and unacceptable in the main amongst the Iran clergy. This shifted in recent years (at least to me, but I'm old) and the Iranians found their "cousins" acceptable for furthering their goals in the area, which they did with a vengeance. The gymnastics required for this were reported in the Iran newspapers and journals about a decade ago and make interesting reading (unfortunately in Persian) and to a lesser extent in the regional Arabic/Armenian press with pretty useless abstracts in the English regional press.

(If you wish to keep up with what is going on in Iran then may I suggest the following link:
Iranian Newspapers : Newspapers from Iran : Iranian News )

The "revolt" in Syria is as much an issue of Sunni majority vs marginal Shia minority holding power as anything else. That shift, if and when it happens, poses a problem for Iran and its other proxies in the area. It also has ramifications to other countries, such as Bahrain et al., that are feeling the increasingly militant activity of a Shia majority and Iran in their affairs.

And, yes, eventually this does boil down to oil to some degree, but it's not only about that resource. One would do well to take a look at the documents and stance being adopted by the so-called Arab Spring. Rather than being a step in the direction of a western facing incipient democracy in a synthetic Arab/Muslim (not everyone we are discussing are Arabs...) style, we appear to be seeing the emergence of something quite different.

It is a truism amongst those of us who lose sleep over these things, that the groups that are always the best able to exploit situations such as this are almost never liberal democracies. The extreme left and right are almost always based on tight knit organisations, often with ancillary military wings, that have the depth and cadres to move forward. Liberals (not meant as a pejorative in this instance) are Big Tenters who by definition are ill equipped to seize the opportunities that instability and unrest engender. They may cause the "Spring" but they rarely profit from it.

The third wave of terrorist organisation are in part defined not only by nationalism(s) but by global connections (think IRA). The current fourth wave, in part defined by the centrality of religion over nationalism, has benefited greatly from the previous waves experiences. State sponsorships have shifted to keep up with the changes.

My apologies for rambling on. And unfortunately for my digestion and thinning hair, I still maintain an interest in Syria.
 
#17
Over use of a misunderstood word.........it is hardly Genocide, it is fecking nasty but it is nowhere near being on the scale of Bosnia, Rwanada etc. Emotive language is partly the reason why people become de-sensitised to shit like this, more so when people apply the term Genocide to the deaths of a few thousand individuals.
Ok, having checked the definition I concede your point.

Like you say though, still fecking nasty and therefore newsworthy IMO.
 

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