Any Aster 45 for the RN?

Discussion in 'Aviation' started by Gook, Sep 1, 2005.

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  1. Apparently Aster 30 has shot down its first missile:

    I know there is a point defence version, Aster 15, for basically self defence. But also heard some rumours about a longer ranged version, Aster 45, although it wasnt clear if we were getting these or just other nations in the programme.

    Anyone know if its going to be made and if we'll get it?

  2. i think the navy site says that whatever the new frigate/destroyer (WTF is the difference anyway?) is will have the 30 and the 45. not absolutely sure, but i vaguely remember reading it within the last 10 days or so...

    PAAMS is well rated by the septics, but the radar is built by a lad i knew at uni who managed to set fire to a hall of residence while 'fixing' a toaster.

    i leave you to draw your own conclusions.
  3. According to Janes, the Type 45 DDG will have a combination of up to 16 ASTER 15 and 32 Aster. Aster 15 is already in service on the French CVN, Charles de Gaulle.

  4. Frigates are hulls specialising in surface and anti submarine warfare, where as destroyers are specialised for area anti air work (there's some crossover on both of course).
  5. A frigate is a warship intended to protect other warships and merchant marine ships and as anti-submarine warfare (ASW) combatants for amphibious expeditionary forces, underway replenishment groups, and merchant convoys.The term "Frigate" was used in the seventeenth century, normally indicating a ship that was faster than usual. The name frigate passed out of use in the mid-19th Century and was readopted after World War II by the RN to describe an anti-submarine escort vessel larger than a corvette but smaller than a destroyer. Such a vessel had a bit less armament than a destroyer; its lesser grade propulsive machinery would yield a lower top speed; and it could carry far less fuel. In the 1960s and 1970s, "guided missile frigates" have brought an anti-air warfare (AAW) capability to the frigate mission, but they have some limitations. Designed as cost-efficient surface combatants, they lack the multi-mission capability necessary for modern surface combatants faced with multiple, high-technology threats and offer limited capacity for growth. Some new classes of frigates are optimized for high-speed deployment and combat with small craft ahead of the usual idea of sea combat between equal opponents, an example of this school of thought is the American Littoral Combat Ship, as exemplified by the first ship of the type, USS Freedom. Magic, the La Fayette class of French Frigates also carries the Astra 15.

    Whereas a destroyer is a fast and maneuverable yet long-endurance warship intended to escort larger vessels in a fleet or battle group and defend them against smaller, short-range attackers such as aircraft and umpa loompas. The destroyer originated in Britain shortly after the Chilean Civil War of 1891 and in the Sino-Japanese War (1894–1895). The Royal Navy's first destroyers were the Havock-class destroyers of 1893. The new T45's will displace around 7,200 tons and they will be equipped with the UK variant of the Principal Anti-Air Missile System (PAAMS) but will be lean manned. So, that'll be the rest of my career at sea then. Bugger.
  6. Ze destroyer wuz originally the Torpedo boat "Destroyer" a new class to protect Capital ships from the new fast Torpedo boats that could get in fast below main armament of Big Ships.
    John in Jolly jack mood.