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Anti Virus etc??

#1
Just had the sinking feeling after finding someone has been shopping on my card, to the tune of some 600 pounds....

phoned the bank and cancelled my card etc

but the worry i have is, what else do they have ??? infomation wise?

the reason im posting this here is that i've been i little concerned with my Anti Virus (AVG) has been in an error state for the last week or so and keeps saying it requires a restart ?? but this does not cure it. any ideas??

any better free AV programs out there
 
#4
If you think, what ever fraud was committed, was down to your PC, that means you have been rooted.

No matter what AV solution you have or ever will have. Your PC is fooked. Clean install is the only safe option! No clean up by any method will ever give you any assurance.
 
#5
Just redone my AV, but as you rightly say it was probably not via my Pc, the problem is that i only was in the UK for 3 days!!! and that was spent in Abingdon.
 
#6
spannermonkey said:
Just redone my AV, but as you rightly say it was probably not via my Pc, the problem is that i only was in the UK for 3 days!!! and that was spent in Abingdon.
I did not say, 'it was probably not via your PC' I only posed the question.
 
#7
jinxy is saying someone might have hacked your comptuer. Possibley a spybot.

Have you used THIS card on YOUR PC (or any others) for internet buying?

If not, then you may just have been had from somewhere else.
 
#8
For Anti Virus stuff, I use Kaspersky. It's not expensive but it is good. The other thing to consider is your firewall. You should have a hardware box between you and the internet with a firewall on it. I use a cable modem as it has a 4 port router built in. I set intrusion detection at full on and hopefully it keeps everyone - everything - else out.

Now watch me sit back and relax as one of you fookers hacks my desktop. Sods.

Farmer B
 
#10
Farmerbleep said:
For Anti Virus stuff, I use Kaspersky. It's not expensive but it is good. The other thing to consider is your firewall. You should have a hardware box between you and the internet with a firewall on it. I use a cable modem as it has a 4 port router built in. I set intrusion detection at full on and hopefully it keeps everyone - everything - else out.

Now watch me sit back and relax as one of you fookers hacks my desktop. Sods.

Farmer B
Actually, windows has a rather good security policy, apply it and you do not need Anti Virus software, that makes you more vulnerable.
 
#11
jinxy said:
Actually, windows has a rather good security policy, apply it and you do not need Anti Virus software, that makes you more vulnerable.
Are you quite mad? The only Rather Good Security Policy that doesn't need a anti-virus is the one where you don't connect to the internet. And don't let any floppy discs, CDs or USB sticks near your PC.
 
#12
Interceptor said:
jinxy said:
Actually, windows has a rather good security policy, apply it and you do not need Anti Virus software, that makes you more vulnerable.
Are you quite mad? The only Rather Good Security Policy that doesn't need a anti-virus is the one where you don't connect to the internet. And don't let any floppy discs, CDs or USB sticks near your PC.
I'm to pissed to educate you.

I have not run an AV for 3 years. You do not understand what a security policy can do.
 
#14
jinxy said:
Interceptor said:
jinxy said:
Actually, windows has a rather good security policy, apply it and you do not need Anti Virus software, that makes you more vulnerable.
Are you quite mad? The only Rather Good Security Policy that doesn't need a anti-virus is the one where you don't connect to the internet. And don't let any floppy discs, CDs or USB sticks near your PC.
I'm to pissed to educate you.

I have not run an AV for 3 years. You do not understand what a security policy can do.
Right. I'm somewhere between:
a) blood-boilingly pissed off with that comment and
b) intrigued to find out how you alone are brighter than all the other PC users out there in t'internetland.
 
#16
I'm not surprised to hear that msr - as more "vista compliant" rootkit / malware code gets published, and other kernel modifying techniques become EVEN more popular (if thats possible) - then software "like" AVG/AVAST will become next to useless.

Kaspersky STILL uses SSDT and other kernel hooks - I wouldnt' touch it with a bargepole - their driver authors need shooting.

You're right when you say he might have a rootkit jinxy - and you're also right when you say that formatting is the only 100% safe option here.

But as for using Windows "security policy" to "protect" against rootkits and malware, well good luck with that.

NOD32 is the about only half decent solution, although that won't protect you against some of the "newer" rustock type rootkits, and vista session 0 exploits, it's the only one you should really be using though.
 
#17
I think that 2009 will see HDD erasing and a complete re-install as the default windows virus removal methodology.

More and more people will dual boot Linux or move to Macs as they realise that for their needs - web surfing, email and a bit of word processing - it is the best solution as they can do this without worrying* about picking up viruses / malware. Windows will be only be required for gaming - and PlayStation / Xbox will make this increasingly irrelevant.

msr

*too much ;)
 
#18
msr said:
I think that 2009 will see HDD erasing and a complete re-install as the default windows virus removal methodology.
For XP - i'd agree, experts from Rutkowska to Russinovich mention same - for Vista/Windows7 dunno - maybe they'll yet do something with PatchGuard that makes it useful - but I really wouldn't hold your breath.

msr said:
More and more people will dual boot Linux or move to Macs as they realise that for their needs - web surfing, email and a bit of word processing - it is the best solution as they can do this without worrying* about picking up viruses / malware.
But then what will the malware authors target (they're already driving harder at macs)...It's a fickle world out there ;)

msr said:
Windows will be only be required for gaming - and PlayStation / Xbox will make this increasingly irrelevant.
For home users - maybe more so in a couple of years as consoles merge more into the "Media Center" arena...we'll see I spose...

But also look at the worldwide corporate footprint...I would guess more moves towards app whitelisting policies, VMs, and sandboxing in the Windows world over the next 12-18 months - especially since the corporates (by and large) are not at all keen to move to anything Vista based (least of all in the current climate).
 

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