'Anti-Terror training' in the US

#1
A rather interesting article showing how, after 9/11, some people have made a lot of money due to the lack of vetting and qualified instructors for various agencies.

How We Train Our Cops to Fear Islam - Meg Stalcup and Joshua Craze

When looked closer at, some instructors appear to have made up educational qualifications, while others seem to do pure hate-mongering. Not surprisingly, some also make a point of being deliberately vague when it comes to their own background and possible operational experience.

The dark/serious side of walting?


Edited due to mong editing.
 
#2
Anyone else spot the deliberate mistake?

Take Mahmoud—Kharoba’s preferred name for a generic Muslim. Kharoba can tell whether Mahmoud is a Wahhabi (a member of a fundamentalist Islamic sect from Saudi Arabia) just by going through Mahmoud’s trash. There will be no pre-approved credit card offers, because interest is forbidden in Islam. There will be no brown wax fried-chicken bags, because fried chicken isn’t halal. For Kharoba, extremist Muslims are as easy to spot as American gang members.
So Mahmoud wont receive junk mail offering pre-approved credit cards? And if he does he wont put them in the bin?
 
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#3
“When you have a Muslim that wears a headband, regardless of color or insignia, basically what that is telling you is ‘I am willing to be a martyr.

?????? Are these Jimbos guys?
 
#4
Does the US Police have a GEMS scheme... I may be able to make a fortune.


$10 on Amazon.
 
#5
'One of these accrediting organizations is called the Anti-Terrorism Accreditation Board, or ATAB, founded in 2001. ATAB promises that if you pay $695 for their certification (or $495 with a fee waiver), you will receive forty PowerPoints and over eight hundred books. Among ATAB’s promotional materials is a PowerPoint slideshow outlining current al-Qaeda tactics. One of the slides features a grainy picture of someone swinging a golf club and warns of “Golf Course Assassinations,” and the possibility of grenade attacks on the carts.

Richard Hughbank, of Extreme Terror Consulting, has taken ATAB’s more advanced course and become a certified master anti-terrorism specialist (CMAS). He provides ATAB with a glowing reference on its website, as well he might, because although the website doesn’t mention it, Hughbank is also the chairman of ATAB’s Standards Committee.'

chocolate frog: my thoughts exactly, this looks like a goldmine for ARRSERs.
 
#6
I'd take teh 16 week course in Ant Terrorism at St Andrews, but I feel it would go way above their heads... way, way, way above their heads.
 
#8
Bloke I was at school with, ex RTR, is minting as a walt 'counter-terror' instructor in the US, teaching schoolkids!
 
#9
I've met one or two of these "counter terrorism" trainers on my trips over the Pond. They smell of ruminant poo & are to be avoided in the same way as snake oil salesmen.
One told me the Iranians were smuggling weapon grade plutonium across the Mex/US border by wax coating pellets of the stuff & swallowing it.
 
#10
Americans are massively paranoid since 9/11, and it can be argued were, long before then, going right back to Sputnik!

As an example, I was offered the serious prospect of work teaching soccer moms firearms handling on the back of my meagre experience as an ACF AI and Frimley course qual'd SAAI instructor.
However the person making the offer was a sort of low rent Jim Shortt type character, and I rudely declined.

There is a real skills vacuum out there. Everyone want's a gun and there are few offering any credible training.
 
#11
I've met one or two of these "counter terrorism" trainers on my trips over the Pond. They smell of ruminant poo & are to be avoided in the same way as snake oil salesmen.
One told me the Iranians were smuggling weapon grade plutonium across the Mex/US border by wax coating pellets of the stuff & swallowing it.
That's actually do-able.

The great myth of plutonium is that everyone dies in its proximity and its the most toxic substance on earth.

Plutonium is an alpha emitter, which means a layer of skin stops it dead. Inhale plutonium dust, however, and you have a 99.7% chance of developing lung cancer.

You can carry plutonium in your pocket quite safely. You can eat it or swallow it, and assuming it passes out the other end, it will do you no harm. But don't breathe in the dust. Even from spent plutonium.

But Iranians doing it across the Mex/US border is of course utter bovine scatology.
 
#12
That's actually do-able.

The great myth of plutonium is that everyone dies in its proximity and its the most toxic substance on earth.

Plutonium is an alpha emitter, which means a layer of skin stops it dead. Inhale plutonium dust, however, and you have a 99.7% chance of developing lung cancer.

You can carry plutonium in your pocket quite safely. You can eat it or swallow it, and assuming it passes out the other end, it will do you no harm . But don't breathe in the dust. Even from Depleted Uranium.

But Iranians doing it across the Mex/US border is of course utter bovine scatology.
Are you f***king crazy? Or is this a bluff to get terrorist to ingest radioactive material?

Could I ask you to volunteer to prove your theory?

Yes your layer of dead skin cells will protect you from alpha particles, as will a few inches of air, but there is no such layer inside your body, quote:

When alpha particle emitting isotopes are ingested, they are far more dangerous than their half-life or decay rate would suggest, due to the high relative biological effectiveness of alpha radiation to cause biological damage, after alpha-emitting radioisotopes enter living cells. Ingested alpha emitter radioisotopes (such as transuranics or actinides) are an average of about 20 times more dangerous, and in some experiments up to 1000 times more dangerous, than an equivalent activity of beta emitting or gamma emitting radioisotopes.

OK, it’s from Wiki but it is correct.
 
#13
Are you f***king crazy? Or is this a bluff to get terrorist to ingest radioactive material?

Could I ask you to volunteer to prove your theory?
Err, no. I'll pass on that, but from the US EPA website...

What does plutonium do once it gets into the body?

The stomach does not absorb plutonium very well, and most plutonium swallowed with food or water passes from the body through the feces. When inhaled, plutonium can remain in the lungs depending upon its particle size and how well the particular chemical form dissolves. The chemical forms that dissolve less easily may lodge in the lungs or move out with phlegm, and either be swallowed or spit out. But, the lungs may absorb chemical forms that dissolve more easily and pass them into the bloodstream.
Once in the bloodstream, plutonium moves throughout the body and into the bones, liver, or other body organs. Plutonium that reaches body organs generally stays in the body for decades and continues to expose the surrounding tissue to radiation.

External exposure to plutonium poses very little health risk, since plutonium isotopes emit alpha radiation, and almost no beta or gamma radiation. In contrast, internal exposure to plutonium is an extremely serious health hazard. It generally stays in the body for decades, exposing organs and tissues to radiation, and increasing the risk of cancer. Plutonium is also a toxic metal, and may cause damage to the kidneys.
'Most'* plutonium will not remain in the digestive system long enough to be a danger. But once in the lungs it is likely it will remain there forever!

To a muslamic fundamentaloid terrorist, this risk is worth it for his 72 virgins.

*is that a statistical most? Will a metal be absorbed by the gut and pass into other organs, or will it pass wholly out of the body in most cases?
 
#17
"health inspectors and liquor inspectors are in the perfect position to rip a store apart without a warrant" in order to find terrorists.
So, lets say the liquor board inspector goes into any 7-11, and finds it's Arab owned and the clerk has a beard. 1 of 2 things can happen:

A; Insp. Redneck looks around and sees beer for sale, and thinks' "that's a cover story for terrorism" and makes a report.Mahmoud goes to jail.

B; Insp. Redneck goes to same stoe with same clerk and sees that the store does NOT sell alcohol, and decides that the owner doesn't sell booze, so MUST be an "extremist wahabbi" Makes report, Mahmoud goes to jail.

I'd like to see every one of these walting, racist panicmongering walts get the full AbuGraib treatment.
 

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