Gun_Nut said:House of Commons Hansard Written Answers for 8 Jul 2004 (pt 16)
Mr. Martyn Jones: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on progress in introducing the Army's Intermediate Light Anti-Armour Weapon. [181488]
Mr. Ingram: The Interim Light Anti-Armour Weapon (ILAW) is being procured to provide a light, short-range anti-armour capability in advance of the introduction of the Next Generation Light Anti-Armour Weapon (NLAW). Following a competitive down select, the Saab Bofors Dynamics AT4 anti-armour system has been chosen to meet the ILAW requirement. In parallel, the NLAW programme remains on track to meet the long-term requirement.
As I think someone mentioned, the NLAW programme was won by the Saab-Bofors MBT LAW. There is also the Anti Structures Munition in the pipeline from Dynamit-Nobel, which will do exactly what it says on the tin!
future_rupert said:Dingerr, just to resolve the issue of what it was, and to demonstrate that it is easily looked up by those who posted the thread in the first place.
dingerr said:b6
The munition will be single shot, throw away. Tactically and logistically this is what we do now.
Yeah but no one told you, could do fire&manouvre with one on your backdingerr said:Its light compared to a WOMBAT!
Am I confused by your post, maybe, but aren't the ILAW (Interim LAW, a number of single shot, disposable, OTS rounds bought to bridge the gap until N(ew)LAW is issued) and said NLAW two different things?EX_STAB said:Good job the new one isn't the Infantry New Light Anti-armour Weapon then!![]()
In_my_day said:Am I confused by your post, maybe, but aren't the ILAW (Interim LAW, a number of single shot, disposable, OTS rounds bought to bridge the gap until N(ew)LAW is issued) and said NLAW two different things?EX_STAB said:Good job the new one isn't the Infantry New Light Anti-armour Weapon then!![]()
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baboon6 said:Gun_Nut said:House of Commons Hansard Written Answers for 8 Jul 2004 (pt 16)
Mr. Martyn Jones: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on progress in introducing the Army's Intermediate Light Anti-Armour Weapon. [181488]
Mr. Ingram: The Interim Light Anti-Armour Weapon (ILAW) is being procured to provide a light, short-range anti-armour capability in advance of the introduction of the Next Generation Light Anti-Armour Weapon (NLAW). Following a competitive down select, the Saab Bofors Dynamics AT4 anti-armour system has been chosen to meet the ILAW requirement. In parallel, the NLAW programme remains on track to meet the long-term requirement.
As I think someone mentioned, the NLAW programme was won by the Saab-Bofors MBT LAW. There is also the Anti Structures Munition in the pipeline from Dynamit-Nobel, which will do exactly what it says on the tin!
Any idea if the Anti-Structure Munition will be a single-shot or reloadable weapon? Apparently a thermobaric round has been developed for the old 84mmCarl G in the States. The 84 is still in service in a lot of countries, including Canada, Denmark, Sweden and even the US (Rangers and SEALs) . Most use it in conjunction with the 66mm LAW (thermobaric version developed) or AT4, or both. There is also the German Panzerfaust III/Bunkerfaust, which can launch both anti-tank and anti-structure munitions.
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/2005/03/marines-fought-the-law-and-the-law-won/index.php
LAW back in USMC service
http://www.defensereview.com/modules.php?name=News&file=print&sid=901
More about thermobaric shoulder-fired weapons in general
http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/issues/2004/Sep/Special_Operations.htm
Article mentioning thermobaric round for Carl G
http://www.world.guns.ru/grenade/gl32-e.htm
Panzerfaust III/Bunkerfaust
http://ccsweb.pica.army.mil/7shoulder/bdm.htm
SMAW-D, the US Army's Bunker Defeat Munition (BDM)
Nuts_McAuliff said:
In_my_day said:Am I confused by your post, maybe, but aren't the ILAW (Interim LAW, a number of single shot, disposable, OTS rounds bought to bridge the gap until N(ew)LAW is issued) and said NLAW two different things?EX_STAB said:Good job the new one isn't the Infantry New Light Anti-armour Weapon then!![]()
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Gaz3447 said:In_my_day said:Am I confused by your post, maybe, but aren't the ILAW (Interim LAW, a number of single shot, disposable, OTS rounds bought to bridge the gap until N(ew)LAW is issued) and said NLAW two different things?EX_STAB said:Good job the new one isn't the Infantry New Light Anti-armour Weapon then!![]()
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dingerr and In_My_Day hit it on the nose. The launcher pictured is the ILAW (US AT-4) disposable anti-tank missile launcher. The Interim LAW was purchased to bridge the time from LAW94 going out of service and the SAAB manufactured NLAW coming into service.
ILAW and NLAW are one shot disposable, however NLAW acts more like a disposable Javelin (guided).
Rumours are that NLAW will hit front line units in Q4 2009/Q1 2010, unless pushed through on UOR. However, there's no UOR for it currently with Javelin doing the job more than well enough, and the distinct lack of en armour knocking about in current theatres.
dingerr said:Gaz3447 said:In_my_day said:Am I confused by your post, maybe, but aren't the ILAW (Interim LAW, a number of single shot, disposable, OTS rounds bought to bridge the gap until N(ew)LAW is issued) and said NLAW two different things?EX_STAB said:Good job the new one isn't the Infantry New Light Anti-armour Weapon then!![]()
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dingerr and In_My_Day hit it on the nose. The launcher pictured is the ILAW (US AT-4) disposable anti-tank missile launcher. The Interim LAW was purchased to bridge the time from LAW94 going out of service and the SAAB manufactured NLAW coming into service.
ILAW and NLAW are one shot disposable, however NLAW acts more like a disposable Javelin (guided).
Rumours are that NLAW will hit front line units in Q4 2009/Q1 2010, unless pushed through on UOR. However, there's no UOR for it currently with Javelin doing the job more than well enough, and the distinct lack of en armour knocking about in current theatres.
Yeh, thanks for that vote of confidence, I don't know how i've survived the last 16 years in the ammunition world without your help![]()
dingerr said:I believe that is a thermobaric weapon. The Russians have been using these for years. Strange how its taken us so long to catch on.