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Anti Air Tanker/High Strategic Value Target Missiles.

A rather under appreciated not much publicised arm/aircraft/asset are the refuelling tankers that are such vital components of any air defence /offence package. Understandable therefor that development of weapons to try to neutralise them are in continual development.

A Chinese missile has been in development for a while. The PL-X/PL-17 which is a very long range missile


...has has a Russian counterpart the R-37 AAM.

The R-37 was originally developed to attack high-value NATO air assets like the E-3 Sentry AWACS, E-8 JSTARS and RC-135V/W Rivet Joint using a high-speed fighter like the MiG-31 to eliminate those NATO air assets. The SU 57 or Chengdu 20 possible carriers underwing these missiles

These new generation long range missiles will threaten critical nodes that enable air operations. Nodes that include AWACS, various intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) assets, aerial refueling tankers and electronic attack aircraft are a threat that bears looking at. There are a few around.


A replacement for Raytheon’s AIM-120 Advanced Medium-Range Air-to-Air Missile has been planed for. This for nearly three decades has represented the West’s benchmark for active-radar-guided missile performance. Lockheed Martin’s AIM-260 Joint Advanced Tactical Missile has been the service’s top development. priority.

But the AIM-260 while offering improvements in range, there remain questions whether the new missile offers longer useful range than the AIM-12, or of that of other countries’ late-generation weapons.

With multiple methods of guidance and targeting, increasing velocities now into the hypersonic, protection against the use of these against high value targets become and becomes an increasingly complex problem
 
So in essence the never ending Arms Merry Go-Round which started immediately after Ugg clubbed Ogg with a whittled & shaped branch continues.

What's next, HyperSuperSonic?
 
Looking at speeds and ranges in the last video, by the time the missile reaches its target the crew will have all retired.
Seriously the time to target will easily enable the target to analyse and take appropriate action.
Plus of course if the enemy are within range of our tankers etc , they too will be within range of our AD assets.
Never ending carousel.
 
This will suffer the same problems that the much vaunted Chinese Anti Carrier missile systems suffer. How the hell do you find, identify, track and lock onto a target 400km away that's going be behind a screen of ECM jamming and moving ?
 
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This will suffer the same problems that the much vaunted Chinese Anti Carrier missile systems suffer. How the hell do you find, identify, track and lock onto a target 400km away that's going be behind a screen of ECM jamming and moving ?

Looking at the problem of protection from air to air missiles, from the other side, provided some interesting reading. Defense Initiatives is a company in the business of providing protection from AAM and has been around for a while, so there would seem to be a good understanding of what is involved. Here is an early flyer from them.

Making MIG-29 And SU-25 aircraft invisible to onboard radars of hostile interceptors.

They have produced equipment for the protection of arial platforms from missile attack, and as one might imagine, it is a complex business/arms race in an ever increasingly high tech battle ground.

This was in Jane's International Defence Review 2018

Obviously not quick reads, probably way behind what is out there now, these do however provide at least an idea to the uninitiated of what is involved. These came out in 2014.

 
Looking at speeds and ranges in the last video, by the time the missile reaches its target the crew will have all retired.
Seriously the time to target will easily enable the target to analyse and take appropriate action.
Plus of course if the enemy are within range of our tankers etc , they too will be within range of our AD assets.
Never ending carousel.
AIUI the point of these weapons isn't to kill the HVA it's to force it 50-odd miles further back degrading its ability to do it's job
 
AIUI the point of these weapons isn't to kill the HVA it's to force it 50-odd miles further back degrading its ability to do it's job
The result of these weapons has been increased caution and degradation of range, their point remains destruction of the target.

There has been ongoing and continued research into the possibility of destroying incoming missiles, one field has been lasers.

The Israelis who are leaders in the field of anti missile defence recently stated that they had made huge advances in technology and are expecting to begin demonstrating this shortly.

While massively expensive to develop, Israel hopes that once functional it will be a far cheaper alternative to interceptor missiles.

While initial versions would in all likelihood be ground based working in conjunction with Iron Dome they are working on airborne versions.
 
What's next, HyperSuperSonic?
Not just yet, but, along with Russian and Chinese hypersonic weapons such as Avangard, Kinzhal, DF-ZF, and Starry Sky 2, existing Navy and DARPA programs and the Air Force’s two new programs are well under way. The U.S. could go from one tested weapon in 2017 to up to four different weapons by 2022 if all goes according to plan.

The AGM-183A Advanced Rapid Response Weapon (ARRW) is an extension of DARPA’s Tactical Boost Glide program. Arrow has a top speed of up to Mach 2.0 or about four times faster than developing Russian and Chinese hypersonic weapons including Starry Sky 2 and Kinzhal.

Then there are Hypersonic Conventional Strike Weapon (HCSW), and Tactical Boost Glide. (TCB). While Arrow, Hacksaw, and Tactical Boost Glide sound similar, there are key differences. Tactical Boost Glide is meant to attack conventional targets near the front line, headquarters units, air defense missiles, ballistic missiles while Hacksaw longer range to attack targets across continents. Arrow not having conventional or tactical tags suggest possibly a nuclear delivery system.
 

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The AGM-183A Advanced Rapid Response Weapon (ARRW) is an extension of DARPA’s Tactical Boost Glide program. Arrow has a top speed of up to Mach 2.0 or about four times faster than developing Russian and Chinese hypersonic weapons including Starry Sky 2 and Kinzhal.

Mach 2.0 is not hypersonic and if you are stating that it is four times faster that Russian and Chinese systems, Mach 0.5 certainly isn't hypersonic.

Hypersonic speeds are generally between Mach 5 -10, so even at the upper limit of that, the ARRW would not be four times the speed of other hypersonic weapons.

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Mach 2.0 is not hypersonic and if you are stating that it is four times faster that Russian and Chinese systems, Mach 0.5 certainly isn't hypersonic.

Hypersonic speeds are generally between Mach 5 -10, so even at the upper limit of that, the ARRW would not be four times the speed of other hypersonic weapons.

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