Another round of MOD cutbacks is imminent - who would you choose to get the bullet?

So bin service plod and make everyone subject to civilian law
Everyone is already subject to the law of the land, and therefore 'civvy' law. However, as I'm sure you're aware, there are peculiarites within the military, that turn what would be a mundane civvy event into a military offence. For instance, my boss is a complete throbber, so I regularly tell him to poke it. I might take a different tack if that were my Pt Cmdr.

CivPol already deal with peculiarities within the civvy system, that sits outside of the conventional. When I was in the job, my last posting was on a firearms team at Heathrow (LHR). LHR itself, and a vast amount of land around the airport, is all private property, and as such, there are significant amounts of byelaws that police can rely upon in addition to the law of the land.

The military could be seen the same way in that, there are significant peculiarities and challenges associated with policing it. That's merely a training need and could easily be addressed.

Similarly, Paramedics, Docs, Nurses, Dentists, Pilots Drivers, Mechanics, in fact, the list is huge. All of these professions, could be encouraged to sign on again under the correct incentives.
 
A centralised training unit consisting of FTRS personnel, get rid of all localised training wings and the corresponding reduction in regular manpower.

Deliver everything from BCS to signals training, MATTs and PDT. Establish professional, consistent standards of training.
I like the end state, but not the route to get there. Theres too much risk for the FTRS being out of date, or worse not questioning the status quo if something is wrong. A lot of changes in the hierarchy would need to be heavily assured too. You might as well throw in something about becoming a learning organisation.
 
Were you fully 'SQEP' in terms of DSAT before you were posted in? From your post I would guess not, which implies a systemic issue; MCM Div posting people into PIDs for which they are not suitably qualified and experienced*. It seems that the lessons in respect of training have not been learned post the Haddon-Cave and Darley-Blake enquiries [other epic training failures are also available].

* - not meant as a personal dig at you, btw.
APC's focus is on avoiding forced assignments which makes getting the right man for the job very difficult. Then to top that the individual might feel that the job is bad for their career, and avoid going.
 

ugly

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Everyone is already subject to the law of the land, and therefore 'civvy' law. However, as I'm sure you're aware, there are peculiarites within the military, that turn what would be a mundane civvy event into a military offence. For instance, my boss is a complete throbber, so I regularly tell him to poke it. I might take a different tack if that were my Pt Cmdr.

CivPol already deal with peculiarities within the civvy system, that sits outside of the conventional. When I was in the job, my last posting was on a firearms team at Heathrow (LHR). LHR itself, and a vast amount of land around the airport, is all private property, and as such, there are significant amounts of byelaws that police can rely upon in addition to the law of the land.

The military could be seen the same way in that, there are significant peculiarities and challenges associated with policing it. That's merely a training need and could easily be addressed.

Similarly, Paramedics, Docs, Nurses, Dentists, Pilots Drivers, Mechanics, in fact, the list is huge. All of these professions, could be encouraged to sign on again under the correct incentives.
Ffs I’ve already explained it once, twice and you get added to the list of redundancies
 
Looks like the Army is to remain at the bottom of the food chain. Already pretty much accepted we can not field an effective Division and the rest is just a hodge podge of random units mainly in the Light (soon to be known as Uber) role.

Boris' recent pronouncements around Defence spending centre on, Technology, Cyber and shipbuilding, lot's and lot's of shipbuilding Boris reveals defence review with new 'big expansion' plan for Britain’s warship building

Perhaps we will sell off one aircraft carrier to encourage further orders. The Americans are very impressed with ours.
 
Without wading through all the pages of this thread, has anyone mentioned Transformation and the hugely overpaid contractors who wasted thousands of people's time with Gucci lectures/seminars, post-it notes and trendy management-speak? If they are still being used, kick them out.
 
Without wading through all the pages of this thread, has anyone mentioned Transformation and the hugely overpaid contractors who wasted thousands of people's time with Gucci lectures/seminars, post-it notes and trendy management-speak? If they are still being used, kick them out.
Amen to that. Same crap in the Home Office.
 
Looks like the Army is to remain at the bottom of the food chain. Already pretty much accepted we can not field an effective Division and the rest is just a hodge podge of random units mainly in the Light (soon to be known as Uber) role.

Boris' recent pronouncements around Defence spending centre on, Technology, Cyber and shipbuilding, lot's and lot's of shipbuilding Boris reveals defence review with new 'big expansion' plan for Britain’s warship building

Perhaps we will sell off one aircraft carrier to encourage further orders. The Americans are very impressed with ours.
While great for generating votes in the British manufacturing and export sectors, there's nothing concrete in those statements that say the ships will be built for RN use.
 

Yokel

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While great for generating votes in the British manufacturing and export sectors, there's nothing concrete in those statements that say the ships will be built for RN use.
The thing the Royal Navy really needs, more than anything else, is manpower. It makes no sense for the politicians to demand that more ships are put to sea without providing more manpower. The trained strength and overall manpower liability need an increase.

Some more ASW Merlins and spares would help too.
 
The thing the Royal Navy really needs, more than anything else, is manpower. It makes no sense for the politicians to demand that more ships are put to sea without providing more manpower. The trained strength and overall manpower liability need an increase.

Some more ASW Merlins and spares would help too.
If you bother to check his speech out he was enthusiastic about selling warships, not giving them to the RN. Did you mention ASW?
 
The thing the Royal Navy really needs, more than anything else, is manpower. It makes no sense for the politicians to demand that more ships are put to sea without providing more manpower. The trained strength and overall manpower liability need an increase.

Some more ASW Merlins and spares would help too.
I asked before but never received an answer

As I under stand it Ships are currently manned with crew + about 30% which enables extended deployments courses etc **

Why not revert to a 1 to 1 crewing*** but lower utilisation of hulls - or perhaps an additional 2 hulls of each escort class used as RNR / training vessels The extra hulls would reduce unit build costs and give some fleet resilience in the event of accidents etc.

** ignoring certain trade and position shortages
*** Perhaps additional use of reservists on ships plodding round UK
 

Yokel

LE
If you bother to check his speech out he was enthusiastic about selling warships, not giving them to the RN. Did you mention ASW?
I was replying to @SkippedOnce! Yes I did mention ASW as it is something of critical importance to the UK and NATO, and we have only a limited number of cabs with dipping sonar etc.

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I asked before but never received an answer

As I under stand it Ships are currently manned with crew + about 30% which enables extended deployments courses etc **

Why not revert to a 1 to 1 crewing*** but lower utilisation of hulls - or perhaps an additional 2 hulls of each escort class used as RNR / training vessels The extra hulls would reduce unit build costs and give some fleet resilience in the event of accidents etc.

** ignoring certain trade and position shortages
*** Perhaps additional use of reservists on ships plodding round UK
No - the drive is to get people into seagoing billets and to get ships ready for operations. The RNR cannot man entire ships and it would be of questionable value for us to do so. We are part of the drive to provide ships ready for operations and task group capabilities.
 
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Yokel

LE
And god do you bang on about it.
It is a very interesting area of activity and may provide exciting opportunities for some. NATO will simply cease to function should we lose the ability to move equipment and forces across the Atlantic, and the threat is not confined to old Cold War adversaries. Argentine submarines posed a threat in the South Atlantic in 1982, and Iranian submarines pose a risk to shipping in the Persian/Arabian Gulf.

How was your idea for Joint Force Wildcat received?
 
Without wading through all the pages of this thread, has anyone mentioned Transformation and the hugely overpaid contractors who wasted thousands of people's time with Gucci lectures/seminars, post-it notes and trendy management-speak? If they are still being used, kick them out.
And stop ex officers working?
3 week's away from been homeless etc
 
The thing the Royal Navy really needs, more than anything else, is manpower. It makes no sense for the politicians to demand that more ships are put to sea without providing more manpower. The trained strength and overall manpower liability need an increase.

Some more ASW Merlins and spares would help too.
Some manpower and some spares is all you really want
 

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If we really must, and just for the tourists and HMQ, have a stand alone dedicated ceremonial, red coated, fluffy hatted, shouty, stampy type of guards unit, which releases the rest of the guards regts to do what they do best, which is close with and smash the living crap out of an enemy.

I do find this de-militarisation somewhat reckless given that the press are reporting that we would be completely out--gunned in a shooty war with Russia.
So get rid of the Guards, better still redeploy them to G4S, you could then flog off all the accomodation as they new queens guard could live under many of Londons bridges. G4S having experience in solving accommodation problems London Olympics.
 

Yokel

LE
Some manpower and some spares is all you really want
Yes, all I want for Christmas is a Merlin HM2 all of my own along with a spares pack, some torpedoes and depth charges, and an all female crew and team of maintainers.

...and some booze!
 

Robme

LE
All this toss in all 3 services
Somebody was telling me the other day, that the reason the Welsh Guards got hit so badly during their trip down south, was the officers refused to move and unload at night in case the mess silver got nicked. Thus they became a sitting target when the Pucaras turned up. Knowing the HC as I do, it doesn’t surprise me that the daft sods took their mess silver with them down south, where if the Argies had some gonads one of the subs could have sunk the ship with the loss of all their f‘ing silver. Met this guy at a Veterans Breakfast recently, Falklands Vet so i’v no reason to doubt what he was saying.
 

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