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Another rough, tough policeman, bringing disgrace to his uniform

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Sergeant faces sack after cell assault on woman - Crime, UK - The Independent

A police sergeant faces the sack after being caught on CCTV injuring a woman by pushing her into a cell, it emerged today.

Sgt Mark Andrews is shown dragging Pamela Somerville, 59, across the floor of the police station in Wiltshire before shoving her into a cell.

CCTV footage captured her lying on the floor for a minute before struggling to get up with blood pouring from a head wound.

Former soldier Sgt Andrews, 37, was eventually convicted of assault causing actual bodily harm after a trial at Oxford Magistrates Court earlier this summer. He will be sentenced on Tuesday and is expected to lose his job.

Lifted like a rag doll and hurled into cell: Shocking video of police brutality... on 5ft 2in tall 59-year-woman | Mail Online

Lifted like a rag doll and hurled into cell: Shocking video of police brutality... on 5ft 2in tall woman, 59, found asleep in car
By IAN GALLAGHER and CHRISTINE CHALLAND
Last updated at 2:37 AM on 5th September 2010
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Captured on film, a burly police sergeant flings an innocent 5ft 2in woman on to a concrete floor, knocking her unconscious.
By the time the then 57-year-old market researcher Pamela Somerville comes round several minutes later, blood is streaming from a wound above her left eye.
Disorientated and bewildered, she manages to lift herself off the floor, but can only stagger around the room.


Read more: Lifted like a rag doll and hurled into cell: Shocking video of police brutality... on 5ft 2in tall 59-year-woman | Mail Online
 
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How the **** is it in any way pertinent that the copper used to serve. It really pisses me off. Why do they not say:

"Sergeant Fuckdust (who was a carpet fitter in a previous life) hit the nun repeatedly in the face" or whatever?

Just trying to perpetuate the myth that all serving and ex are somehow psychotic timebombs just waiting to go off.

Im pissed off now.

edited because I possess sausages instead of hands
 
#3
Yet again, a law abiding member of the public doing nothing wrong gets the shit beaten out of then for not showing the Police what they feel is due respect to their authoritah.

Keep it up plod - many of the public already regard you as 'the enemy', a bit more work and it will be 100%.
Was a time once when I'd wade in to help a Copper in a street confrontation situation, now? I'd just shrug and walk on by as he got a kicking.
 
#5
Don't wish to be considered as condoning the offence but she must have done something to p*ss them off big style. As the TV news said this morning, the Sgt would have known there is CCTV throughout the custody suite and cells.
 
#6
How the **** is it in any way pertinent that the copper used to serve. It really pisses me off. Why do they not say:

"Sergeant Fuckdust (who was a carpet fitter in a previous life) hit the nun repeatedly in the face" or whatever?

Just trying to perpetuate the myth that all serving and ex are somehow psychotic timebombs just waiting to go off.
I used to think that too, then I started thinking........and now notice that all manner of previous from 'ex dinner lady' to 'ex THEM' to victim/have a go hero had appeared on Stars in Their Eyes' gets mentioned in media stories good and bad, not just servicepersons. There is no conspiracy, switch off the engine and step away from the outrage bus...and remove your tinfoil beret!

The victim does seem to lose/gain a couple of years between stories. Journalists eh?
 
#7
I was more interested in the fact that none of his colleagues did anything to help the poor woman. Conspiracy of silence, I'd have had them all up before the Court - wasters.
 
#8
We can add this to the bog roll of dishonour. After last week's incident with two coppers taking a seized sports car for a spin - and demolishing a house and last months fun with three coppers recycling a pensioner's motor because he wasn't wearing a seat belt we may be needing to lengthen the roll somewhat.

It's funny how incidents like this rarely happen when the victim is a six foot six black guy built like a brick sh1t house. Here's hoping Large Sarge enjoys his stay in prison. He might even meet some old acquaintances and end up bleeding in a cell himself.
 
#9
Yet again another Chief Constable appearing to "understand" the actions of the officer:

"Whilst that is unpalatable, the reality is that policing is complex and difficult and again we repeat, there can never be any excuse for excessive behaviour by police officers or police staff"

While he points out that there is no excuse for this behaviour he says its "a complex and difficult task". This assault took place in one of this Chief Constable's stations, that makes him responsible for the actions of his officer.

What annoys me about this incident, the Officer concerned is a custody officer, he knows that the custody area and the cell are covered by CCTV cameras which are recording all the time, yet he still assaults a member of the public and injures her despite knowing he is being recorded. Either this officer is thick as pigsh1t, or he views that the chances of his actions being reviewed by his superiors are so low that its worth the risk. Either way I seriously hope that this results in the officer concerned learning about life on the other side of a prison wall, and not for a short time.
 
#12
I was more interested in the fact that none of his colleagues did anything to help the poor woman. Conspiracy of silence, I'd have had them all up before the Court - wasters.
BBC News reported this morning that it was a WPC present at the time who dobbed him in.

Was she issued the moral courage or did she bring her own on shift?
 
#13
I think there may be an appeal here, if for no other reason than to keep a wage coming in whilst looking for a new job. It wwould have been just as good to ignore her and get a Constable to put her into a cell until she was more amenable especially as she appears to have been arrested for something like drunk in charge of a vehicle. His actions knowingly on camera suggest that he intended to push her into the cell but not to cause a bleeding head. It doesn't matter really though as that was the net result of his actions.

Over time, dealing with day to day nastiness numbs you and you become nasty yourself. I suspect this man lost it once too often and is now reaping the consequences of his actions. I am sure the colleague who informed on him is , of course , whiter than white and is of the most high moral standards that he would never do such things.
 
#17
The Police have lost all credibility in my eyes and it all stems from selection, training and ethos. Rather arrogantly I believe I am one of the best examples of why the police in this country have got things wrong. I am a law abiding, Tory voting, prematurely balding member of middle England. Just the kind of person who one expects to have no problems with the police, growing up, my only encounters with the police were positive ones and I generally ragarded them as a body of men, serving society under difficult circumstances. That was untill I had a proffessional dealings with them that is.

As a young platoon commander, one inevitably from time to time have dealings with the Police. Due to these encounters i now consider them to he ill educated, often ignorant of the very laws that they exist to enforce, often arrogant and they allow their egos to get in the way of the situation. I have seen far to many cases where a situation has been caused or indeed escalated unesesarilly because the policeman feels that his authority has in some way been slighted. So many times, all it would take is a little compassion or perspective to diffuse a situation rather than costing the public purse for little or no reason than to satisfy the Policeman's self image.

Unfortunatly gone are the days when Policing was a vocation, it's now a 9-5 job that people get into, often with no sense of public service or duty. I suspect this shitty "I AM THE LAW" attitude is drilled into them during training where they are constantly told that they must impose their authority on any given situation, then reinforced by an unhealthy atmosphere of machismo in the work place. So well done Police, you have turned one of your staunchest supporters into a critic, not because of some imature sense of injustice but because of the way that you consistantly fall short of the standards that I as a taxpayer expect. Perhaps it's time we start teaching the Police courageous restraint.
 
#18
I don't trust her statements.


...because I had been in the car all night and look young for my age.
Her car battery was flat because she'd left the heater running full blast all night. Wouldn't this have involved the engine running to provide the hot water - charging the battery at the same time?

And, watching the video, it's an hour after being put in the cell - and after a check by the desk sergeant - that we see profuse bleeding. Surely by this time the bleeding would have stopped or at least abated. Notably, the video has been edited to remove her dialogue.
 
#19
Don't wish to be considered as condoning the offence but she must have done something to p*ss them off big style. As the TV news said this morning, the Sgt would have known there is CCTV throughout the custody suite and cells.
And? Dealing with mouthy, drunk tossers is part of a coppers job. Noone expects them to like it but they are expected to deal with it in a professional manner.

If a Chav decides assualt a copper, I'm not going to lose any sleep if that copper gives him a couple of extra digs while defending himself. But dragging a tiny, old woman across a police station and throwing her into a cell like a bag of tatties just because she "pissed him off" is so far beyond reasonable it's not even funny.

He deserves everything he gets.
 
#20
I don't trust her statements.




Her car battery was flat because she'd left the heater running full blast all night. Wouldn't this have involved the engine running to provide the hot water - charging the battery at the same time?

And, watching the video, it's an hour after being put in the cell - and after a check by the desk sergeant - that we see profuse bleeding. Surely by this time the bleeding would have stopped or at least abated. Notably, the video has been edited to remove her dialogue.
Your trust in her statements (as reported via the press with something undoubtedly lost in translation) is irrelevant. A court has found the Officer GUILTY, and the video is perfectly clear, as are the statements from the other witness who reported the assault. Gulity as charged, now if you cant do the time dont do the crime.... The law applies to the police too, and they best start to remember that fact.
 

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