Another reason why the death penalty should be restored

diverman

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The British taxpayer should NOT have to support filth like this,

Man jailed for 30 years over Aldi murder

The judge should have a black wig, and pronounce " You will be taken to a place of legal execution, whereafter three Sundays you will be hung by the neck until you are dead. May God have mercy on your soul".
Actually it was a square of black silk placed over the Judge's wig and a man of God would intone Amen at the end.
 
#3
Oh I dunno. He got 30 years. He's 44 years old. If he does survive the 30 years and he is eventually released on license, he'll have spent the vast majority of the remaining years of his life behind bars.

That's a long time to have to hang about and consider what you did. And at 74 years of age, he'll have nothing to show for his life for the few short remaining years left to him.

I'm not a supporter of the death penalty but I am a supporter of adequate and punitive sentencing for the crime. In this instance, I think the judge got it just about right.
 
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Oh I dunno. He got 30 years. He's 44 years old. If he does survive the 30 years and he is eventually released on license, he'll have spent the vast remaining years of his life behind bars.

That's a long time to have to hang about and consider what you did. And at 74 years of age, he'll have nothing to show for his life for the few short remaining years left to him.

I'm not a supporter of the death penalty but I am a supporter of adequate and punitive sentencing for the crime. In this instance, I think the judge got it just about right.
He got 30, but if he keeps his head down he could be out after 15, or even less. Jails are full, they need the space for the next murderer.
 
#8
He got 30, but if he keeps his head down he could be out after 15, or even less. Jails are full, they need the space for the next murderer.
Doesn't that depend on the Judges recommendation at sentencing?

There are also plenty of murderers who aren't coming out at all despite the fact that they were initially sentenced to a defined period of time.

The Telegraph did an article on it. Here's a link to it. The 70 prisoners serving whole life sentences in the UK
 
#9
A wee bit of "resting arrest" evident? Or perhaps the first few nights on remand?
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His victim was just a poor wee lass powerless against him.
I've "swung back and forth" over the decades regarding hanging but murders like the Soham murders of two helpless young girls (and far too many like them) has returned me back in favour.
On the one hand, mistakes can be made but on the other I trust the unrelenting march of billions-to-one DNA matching these days on top of far advanced & irrefutable forensic evidence.
Yes, he could be out in 15 or less, but will spend the rest of his putrid existance looking over his shoulder, albeit (probably) with a council flat, stipend, and ringfenced by social touchy-feely workers.
 
#11
He got 30, but if he keeps his head down he could be out after 15, or even less. Jails are full, they need the space for the next murderer.
If his tariff is 30 years, as a lifer, that is what he will serve before release from custody is considered.
 
#13
The British taxpayer should NOT have to support filth like this,

Man jailed for 30 years over Aldi murder

The judge should have a black wig, and pronounce " You will be taken to a place of legal execution, whereafter three Sundays you will be hung by the neck until you are dead. May God have mercy on your soul".
No problem with the Death penalty as long as you can undeadify people
 
#15
If his tariff is 30 years, as a lifer, that is what he will serve before release from custody is considered.
Not up on English law one iota.. but would the tariff not have to be stated categorically as the minimum term..bla bla..when handed down? EG...30 years but with a minimum of 15 before parole?
If I got that wrong...fair one.
 
#16
Don't forget that the Machiavelli's Law of Unintended Consequences here (my favourite law). If the noose is a mandatory or likley sentence, then juries will err on the side of caution and will be more likely to aquit.
 

MrBane

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#20
Listen, the whole 'highly improbable he would ever be released'' is bollocks.

I routinely get notifications of murderers, rapists and kiddy fiddlers, as well as complete nut jobs getting unescorted day release into the wider community.

Some of the stuff is proper in touch with the devil craziness. Torture, dismemberment, setting fire to them.... Yep, fine, you can head out for a Thursday in the town in your own. Or the classic 'poses a real risk of opportunistic child abduction with a view to serious sexual assault'.

Court is broken, jail is broken. You step out of the line of general society, you should be taken out of society, permanently.
 

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