Another reason not to buy Vista yet...

#1
BBC Clicky

The BBC News said:
Microsoft has said it plans to cut the cost of its Windows Vista operating system sold at retail outlets.

Although no exact date has yet been given, Microsoft said price cuts would be introduced in 70 countries.

In the US, the cost of the most expensive version, Vista Ultimate, will be reduced to $319 (£161) from the current retail price of $399.

Looks like it wasn't as popular as they expected :D
 
#2
Vista is sh!t , my brother has it on his laptop which has 1 gig of ram, half of which is used up instantly just running all the vista processes.

He bought a dell laptop with gaming in mind, good gfx card, core dou, 1 gig ram, it should be a decent system, but it can't even handle rainbow six vegas because vista is too resource hungry.

Microsoft are also going to release direct x 10 and make it only work with vista, so he can't put XP on his system.

I think I did the right thing by saying f**k pc gaming and going over to ubuntu linux.
 
#3
A gig of RAM is no longer enough, even in an XP box if you want to play decent games. Test Drive Unlimited, that's a hungry bugger even on XP. Still, RAM is pretty cheap. I'd advise bunging in some more, that laptop ought to take at least 2GB, although I'd advise against a laptop for playing games.

DX10 has been available for at least a year, and there's a version specifically for XP, it just takes a bit of hunting down.
 
#4
I'm not sure if it has additional slots for more ram, haven't had a good look at it yet, but I think it's a laptop you can't upgrade.
 
#5
mark1234 said:
Vista is sh!t , my brother has it on his laptop which has 1 gig of ram, half of which is used up instantly just running all the vista processes.

"He bought a dell laptop with gaming in mind", good gfx card, core dou, 1 gig ram, it should be a decent system, but it can't even handle rainbow six vegas because vista is too resource hungry.

Microsoft are also going to release direct x 10 and make it only work with vista, so he can't put XP on his system.

I think I did the right thing by saying f**k pc gaming and going over to ubuntu linux.
Well that was his first problen, buying a bloody Dell laptop, the only one on offer that have 1gig ram seems to be the XPSTM M1330, now that comes with Integrated Intel® Graphic Media Accelerator X3100 (utter crap), or as an upgrade you could have it with 128MB nVidia® GeForce® 8400M GS, again not something for the hardcore gamer, or indeed any gamer who fancys playing anything apart from the built in ones :D

Sorry to say, but the old expression springs to mind "A poor workman blames his tools" , There's nothing wrong with Vista providing that the PC that it's installed on is up to the task, trouble is most PC's are not, hence the rants from those sold a pig in a poke :D
 
#6
Microsoft have dropped the required spec so that Intel can sell more chips The Reg Link

Why do you want to run this OS still? There isn't many drivers designed for it and it's not that reliable yet.
 
#7
It's not the greatest system in the world, but his desktop with XP on can play rainbow six fine, that has a 7 series (oldier) nvidia graphics card, and an even slower processor, the only difference is the OS.
 
#8
Ive got Vista i think its allright not slow and doesnt take the piss starting up.Not had a problem with it.
 
#9
daz said:
Well that was his first problen, buying a bloody Dell laptop, the only one on offer that have 1gig ram seems to be the XPSTM M1330, now that comes with Integrated Intel® Graphic Media Accelerator X3100 (utter crap), or as an upgrade you could have it with 128MB nVidia® GeForce® 8400M GS, again not something for the hardcore gamer, or indeed any gamer who fancys playing anything apart from the built in ones :D

Sorry to say, but the old expression springs to mind "A poor workman blames his tools" , There's nothing wrong with Vista providing that the PC that it's installed on is up to the task, trouble is most PC's are not, hence the rants from those sold a pig in a poke :D
A laptop is not the best gaming platform by a long way but a Dell laptop will be no worse than any other as all the components are pretty much all the same.

Nothing wrong with Vista?? You are joking, an operating system is meant to run the PC to allow applications to run, not to use up a great deal of those resources that applications NEED to run well! Having said that if you have a high spec PC, Vista is very tactile and well presented OS.
 
#10
I've had more issues with Vista on my £4000 monster CAD rig than on my old PC, which has had no issues under Vista. The old rig:

Athlon XP2600
1.5GB ram
nVidia nForce 2(!) chipset
120GB hard drive

This old girl is loaded to the gunwhales with crap. Office, games, home movies, video editing stuff and the Mercedes Benz Workshop Information System.

Nary an issue, and fast too.

(I was going to say "fast to boot" but that would have meant something different in here...)
 
#11
You've hit the nail on the head there vermin, most PC's only have a gig of ram, vista seems to use half of that just idling, an OS is supposed to be something you use to run programs, it's not supposed to be more resourse hungry than the programs themselves.
 
#12
mark1234 said:
You've hit the nail on the head there vermin, most PC's only have a gig of ram, vista seems to use half of that just idling, an OS is supposed to be something you use to run programs, it's not supposed to be more resourse hungry than the programs themselves.
Most systems are coming with 1 gig of RAM. Vista uses a lot of ram to idle, yes. How much percentage of ram on a standard system did XP take up at it's release, compared to WINME?
 
#13
If you don't want vista using so much memory then turn of some of its features. It's not difficult and there are plenty of sites that will tell you how. Google for "tweak vista" or similar.

Regarding the laptop memory comment from Mark1234, yes you can upgrade although you may not have enough room for extra memory sticks, but will have to buy bigger memory to go in the existing slots. On some laptops it's easy,and on some (my old Acer being one) you have to fully open it up to get to one of the memory slots.

Have a look at www.crucial.com , type in your system details and you'll see what's on offer.

Vista in fine now that software producers have caught up so there are fewer compatibility issues. I tried it too early, went back to XP and am now back on vista again. You've got to accept that it is the future mainstream OS, so stop fighting it. It has plenty of improvements over XP although there are of course bits that I don't like. Once again look for tips on setting it up / tweaking it on Google.
 
#14
mark1234 said:
I'm not sure if it has additional slots for more ram, haven't had a good look at it yet, but I think it's a laptop you can't upgrade.
Yes you can, even if it means taking out the old RAM and replacing it. Laptop upgrading can be an expensive sport.
 
#15
I bought a £300 Toshiba laptop with Vista installed for home and internet use and it runs well. I was anxious about buying it because of what I had heard, but decided that I could remove Vista and add XP if all wasn't well. Much more irritating than Vista is the latest version of Office, bring back Word 2003 I say!
 
#16
was talking to my bro who's MCSE trained about vista.. he advised me not to touch it until at September last year as they were still tweaking it.. So I upgraded my laptop to 2Gb of RAM in preperation for it... went to www.crucial.com and they were excellent - can't praise them enough. Still havent got Vista but I will upgrade to it eventually.. just waiting for the price to drop some more !

Just bought a brand new licenced copy of XP SP2 from fleabay for £55.. added to that a copy of Office 2007 (which I like) and Ive got a very good setup for my PC at home.
 

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#17
Bat_Crab said:
I bought a £300 Toshiba laptop with Vista installed for home and internet use and it runs well. I was anxious about buying it because of what I had heard, but decided that I could remove Vista and add XP if all wasn't well. Much more irritating than Vista is the latest version of Office, bring back Word 2003 I say!
It just takes some getting used to, as does any major upgrade/change of software. Once you have used it for a while it is actually better than Office 2003.
 
#18
Legs said:
Bat_Crab said:
I bought a £300 Toshiba laptop with Vista installed for home and internet use and it runs well. I was anxious about buying it because of what I had heard, but decided that I could remove Vista and add XP if all wasn't well. Much more irritating than Vista is the latest version of Office, bring back Word 2003 I say!
It just takes some getting used to, as does any major upgrade/change of software. Once you have used it for a while it is actually better than Office 2003.
But it keeps on tying to do things for me that I don't want doing or am more than capable of doing myself. Even if you turn off all the automatic pagination bolleaux it still underlines every other word and insists on offering me wizards for everything.
 
#19
VerminWA said:
A laptop is not the best gaming platform by a long way but a Dell laptop will be no worse than any other as all the components are pretty much all the same.

Nothing wrong with Vista?? You are joking, an operating system is meant to run the PC to allow applications to run, not to use up a great deal of those resources that applications NEED to run well! Having said that if you have a high spec PC, Vista is very tactile and well presented OS.
When I finally changed to XP a couple of years ago, I only lost one bit of software, which was by then 10 years old so perhaps not surprising. If I changed to Vista not only would my PC which is fine as it is at the moment need upgrading with more ram, I would need to replace two perfectly satisfactory printers (no drivers available) and I suspect a fair bit of the software I use. I think that MS needs to get away from it's current business model of trying to force as many users to upgrade whole suites of softeware at regular intervals to get bels and whistles they do not need, and settle down to providing decent working software at affordable prices
 
#20
Put Vista 64 home prem on my rig last week ( £63 from microdirect with SP1 ) bloody hell it rakes some getting used to as it's a hell of a lot different from XP but its bloody good so far......
 

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