Another PCC good news story.

Discussion in 'Current Affairs, News and Analysis' started by stanley_bomb_squad, Apr 19, 2013.

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  1. I'm surprised that this one has slipped through the Arrse filter til now, (yes I did do a search, so if its a duplicate Mods please shift to the hole)

    BBC News - Richard Rhodes PCC expenses 'leak': Police make third arrest

    Richard Rhodes PCC expenses 'leak': Police make third arrest

    Detectives investigating the alleged leak of expenses claims made by Cumbria's police and crime commissioner (PCC) have made a third arrest.

    A 54-year-old man from Penrith is being held on suspicion of perverting the course of justice after details of two chauffeur-driven journeys by Richard Rhodes appeared in a newspaper.

    Two Cumbria Police staff members were arrested and bailed on Tuesday.

    So it appears Young Mr Grace has spent £700 on these trips that were part of a contract but he didn't know how much the journeys would cost and he's paid it back so its all ok.


    Questions still to be answered over police chief

    A CHIEF constable’s spending at a hotel in a picturesque Cumbrian valley and at a West Yorkshire pub are among a series of expenses claims for which police could provide no explanation.

    The Highland Drove Inn, nestled in the Eden Valley, received a number of bookings from Stuart Hyde including one priced at £112.95 marked ‘no information available’ in credit card records forwarded to the Yorkshire Post by Cumbria Police.

    Another booking for £105.05 was described as being for a visit by an unidentified ‘consultant’. Bookings for other visitors at the same hotel identify names but Cumbria Police has declined to respond to questions about Mr Hyde’s credit card spending on the grounds that it might prejudice an investigation by South Wales Police into the chief constable’s conduct. It is unknown what official business the paid-for accommodation involved.

    And this is being overseen by........Ah yes:
    On 15 November 2012, for the first time ever, the
    public will elect a PCC who will be accountable
    for how crime is tackled in their police force area.
    To provide stronger and more transparent
    accountability of the police, PCCs will be elected
    by the public to hold Chief Constables and their
    forces to account, effectively making the police
    answerable to the communities they serve.
  2. Your point being?
  3. Shhh...he's a member of Kent police, trying to divert the heat of BounceBanana
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  4. Reading between the lines I'd say he was:

    A - Pointing out that the financial common sense of some PCCs may be deficient (but correctable with the application of a bit of adverse publicity);

    B - given the whinging about the cost to taxpayers about a recent burial, expensing hotel bills for what looks a one man weekday porn-fest and an away day with a lady other than his partner might be regarded as beyond the pale.
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  5. The "elections" were a waste of time and money?

    Senior police do what they like, but smash their juniors when they feel like it for a lot less?

    But I do like the fact that "whistle-blowers" are now being nicked for pervert the course of public justice.

    pour encourager les autres...
  6. But I'd still like to read why Stan is so bothered?
  7. Grumblegrunt

    Grumblegrunt LE Book Reviewer

    why telling everyone that the PCC is wasting money perverting the course of justice?

    the police didn't want them and the public didn't care about a new non job being created.
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  8. Next time we have elections for PCCs would it be too sensible for voters to have a box for "we don't want a PCC"?

    Democracy in action and a chance to get rid of these failed politicians and habitual feeders off the state.
  9. I have posted a couple of threads recently complimentary to Kent Police. "Weed in pants" and the detailed research to identify a Luftwaffe body 1986.

    Their PCC (former Chair of KPA) Ann Barnes JP is struggling with her latest trick questions. A simple one, for example, is what does Alun Michael MP (Labour Home Office minister) and KPA have in common. (Clue August 97 James Shortt)
  10. Gentle mockery BB - no offence intended!
  11. I wasn't aware I was ranting??
    However you have to wonder who's guarding the guards in this case?

    Our fantastic. Home Sec believes that the public will hold them accountable at the next election!

    14% turn out I believe with only 5% of the total population voting the candidate in

    Ahh democracy

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  12. Does anyone know why we need these PCC's?

    Was it in anyones manifesto?
    Was the previous system broken?
    Does anyone really know what PCC really do?
  13. I'm failing to grasp what we're supposed to be outraged about. The PCC made a couple of journeys, they were much more expensive than he expected, and he paid them back.

    A couple of police employees went to the papers and tried to **** him over. They're now being arrested. Surely they're the target of any rant?
  14. Yes, totally and utterly - local police authorities were more or less usurped by the unelected and unaccountable ACPO years ago.
  15. It was in both the Lib Dem and Conservative manifestos during the 2010 election.

    The concept of Police and Crime Commissioners isn't a bad one. It makes an elected figurehead directly responsible to the public for the way policing is carried out, and puts them in charge of hiring/firing/holding to account Chief Constables. It aims to solve the issue of people complaining about the police by giving them the ability to vote for change.

    Where it falls down is in the execution. I've no idea who my local PCC is or what he/she represents. I don't remember being asked to vote for anyone. If given the chance, I'd like to vote for the candidate with the most experience and the opinions that most closely match mine; however, for some weird reason, PCCs are aligned with political parties.