Another Labour PR Scam

In today's FT

Miliband confronts activists on spending
Mr Miliband said there could be no return to the tax and spend policies of Labour’s recent past if his party wins next May’s general election

Does he really think the electorate are that stupid to believe this?

Who are the Labour party kidding?

The mantra is always - OK let's see who we can fleece now in order to subsidise the idle, inefficient and unemployable that we have created through our crackpot utopian social engineering schemes.

Stands back and waits for the inevitable socialist diatribes to appear.............
 

swordman

RIP
RIP
What are you talking about? The last party to run this land at an imports exports profit was Brown. And they saved your bacon, when they saved the banks from complete failure You need to have a look at bank failure, and see what it means to the man in the street. bank failure ? No wages.no imports, no business, and the last people to get their money out if they go bankrupt are businesses.That is after the clearing up folks dig their clutches into the bag.... the private customer is the last in the list after those clearing up the mess created by the monstrous greed of the Tory banks.

You may find it interesting to look back at BLACK WEDNESDAY when the Tories led us into losses that could only be described as "Staggering" Where the Tories had to run to Germany to borrow money so that the country could continue. At the time there was not enough Noughts to describe their losses. But you dont want to know that do you.

You want more facts I have plenty..... OH yes I have a long memory..I can recall the Tory MP complaining bitterly about bombing Hitlers arms factories. We should stop it...Its private property,,,, Or the gut wrenching appeasement the Tories indulged in, when prompt action could have prevented the deaths of millions....

Want more? ASk this where is the money coming from to ay for this "Economic" upturn... Exports? Like hell they are, they are at an all time low its all borrowed (Sheds Full) and later you will pay....have a nice day :):):):)
 

jarrod248

LE
Gallery Guru
What are you talking about? The last party to run this land at an imports exports profit was Brown. And they saved your bacon, when they saved the banks from complete failure You need to have a look at bank failure, and see what it means to the man in the street. bank failure ? No wages.no imports, no business, and the last people to get their money out if they go bankrupt are businesses.That is after the clearing up folks dig their clutches into the bag.... the private customer is the last in the list after those clearing up the mess created by the monstrous greed of the Tory banks.

You may find it interesting to look back at BLACK WEDNESDAY when the Tories led us into losses that could only be described as "Staggering" Where the Tories had to run to Germany to borrow money so that the country could continue. At the time there was not enough Noughts to describe their losses. But you dont want to know that do you.

You want more facts I have plenty..... OH yes I have a long memory..I can recall the Tory MP complaining bitterly about bombing Hitlers arms factories. We should stop it...Its private property,,,, Or the gut wrenching appeasement the Tories indulged in, when prompt action could have prevented the deaths of millions....

Want more? ASk this where is the money coming from to ay for this "Economic" upturn... Exports? Like hell they are, they are at an all time low its all borrowed (Sheds Full) and later you will pay....have a nice day :):):):)
You think he's up to the job? I'm not sure any of them are.


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elovabloke

ADC
Moderator
You want more facts I have plenty..... OH yes I have a long memory..I can recall the Tory MP complaining bitterly about bombing Hitlers arms factories. We should stop it...Its private property,,,, Or the gut wrenching appeasement the Tories indulged in, when prompt action could have prevented the deaths of millions....
I don't suppose you have a link to that.
 

CQMS

LE
What are you talking about? The last party to run this land at an imports exports profit was Brown. And they saved your bacon, when they saved the banks from complete failure You need to have a look at bank failure, and see what it means to the man in the street. bank failure ? No wages.no imports, no business, and the last people to get their money out if they go bankrupt are businesses.That is after the clearing up folks dig their clutches into the bag.... the private customer is the last in the list after those clearing up the mess created by the monstrous greed of the Tory banks.

You may find it interesting to look back at BLACK WEDNESDAY when the Tories led us into losses that could only be described as "Staggering" Where the Tories had to run to Germany to borrow money so that the country could continue. At the time there was not enough Noughts to describe their losses. But you dont want to know that do you.

You want more facts I have plenty..... OH yes I have a long memory..I can recall the Tory MP complaining bitterly about bombing Hitlers arms factories. We should stop it...Its private property,,,, Or the gut wrenching appeasement the Tories indulged in, when prompt action could have prevented the deaths of millions....

Want more? ASk this where is the money coming from to ay for this "Economic" upturn... Exports? Like hell they are, they are at an all time low its all borrowed (Sheds Full) and later you will pay....have a nice day :):):):)

Labour ran a deficit for approximately 100% of the time they were in office.
 
Ah! Swordsman ..... There's no better apologist than an old apologist. Just like Stalin' "useful idiots" they can spout spoon-fed political dogma like the porverbial belt fed wombat. Cant at its best.
 
Not that much of a long memory, swordsman. Go back a bit further when Labour had to go cap in hand to the IMF in the mid 70s.
The famous note of "Sorry, there's no money left" could have been left by any outgoing Labour government, not just the last one.
Yes, this government (and in case it slipped your long memory, it is not a Conservative one but a coalition one) has to borrow lots. Most of it to pay the bills left by Blair/Brown.
 

Johned

War Hero
While you are looking at old history Swordman, it should be remembered that as late as 1939 the year we went to war, Labour voted against the Defence Estimates!
 
Does he really think the electorate are that stupid
There's a considerable amount of evidence to support the theory, it must be said.

Let's face it, electoral success in the UK doesn't come through having a sound plan to benefit the nation as a whole, it comes through being able to effectively bribe the most people from the public purse. The only thing that varies from party to party is how they dress up their particular bribe.
 

theoriginalphantom

MIA
Book Reviewer
There are few* politicians who are not "items of female genitalia" they'll pretty much say anything to improve their standing or to lower someone elses.



*I don't know of any, this is just a disclaimer in case one is found
 

Daz

LE
What are you talking about? The last party to run this land at an imports exports profit was Brown. And they saved your bacon, when they saved the banks from complete failure You need to have a look at bank failure, and see what it means to the man in the street. bank failure ? No wages.no imports, no business, and the last people to get their money out if they go bankrupt are businesses.That is after the clearing up folks dig their clutches into the bag.... the private customer is the last in the list after those clearing up the mess created by the monstrous greed of the Tory banks.

You may find it interesting to look back at BLACK WEDNESDAY when the Tories led us into losses that could only be described as "Staggering" Where the Tories had to run to Germany to borrow money so that the country could continue. At the time there was not enough Noughts to describe their losses. But you dont want to know that do you.

You want more facts I have plenty..... OH yes I have a long memory..I can recall the Tory MP complaining bitterly about bombing Hitlers arms factories. We should stop it...Its private property,,,, Or the gut wrenching appeasement the Tories indulged in, when prompt action could have prevented the deaths of millions....

Want more? ASk this where is the money coming from to ay for this "Economic" upturn... Exports? Like hell they are, they are at an all time low its all borrowed (Sheds Full) and later you will pay....have a nice day :):):):)


£3.4 billion,,, hardly staggering considering how much the next lot pissed up against the wall..... Oh, and lets not forget why the banks got into such a state.... that would be because of Gordon the incompetent,

Oh, and you don't have facts, you have views, not the same thing at all
 
Labour have already made over 85 billion quids worth of spending commitments. All, apparently to be funded by a tax on bankers' bonuses. IIRC it was estimated that bonuses would have to be taxed at over 1,000% to cover the costs.

Here is ARRSE's favourite pinup demonstrating how well Labour's spending plans have been worked out.


The only way they'll cover the spending commitments that they've already made is to hammer working people. God knows what we'll be forking out once the Comrades at Unite get the boot in.

Rumours that Ed will promise not to go to the toilet for 4 years if we elect him next year were neither confirmed nor denied by Labour Central Office. Just imagine how much extra work he'll get done - and how full of sh1t he'll be by the time he loses the inevitable confidence vote some time around 2019.
 

FORMER_FYRDMAN

LE
Book Reviewer
What are you talking about? The last party to run this land at an imports exports profit was Brown. And they saved your bacon, when they saved the banks from complete failure You need to have a look at bank failure, and see what it means to the man in the street. bank failure ? No wages.no imports, no business, and the last people to get their money out if they go bankrupt are businesses.That is after the clearing up folks dig their clutches into the bag.... the private customer is the last in the list after those clearing up the mess created by the monstrous greed of the Tory banks.

You may find it interesting to look back at BLACK WEDNESDAY when the Tories led us into losses that could only be described as "Staggering" Where the Tories had to run to Germany to borrow money so that the country could continue. At the time there was not enough Noughts to describe their losses. But you dont want to know that do you.

You want more facts I have plenty..... OH yes I have a long memory..I can recall the Tory MP complaining bitterly about bombing Hitlers arms factories. We should stop it...Its private property,,,, Or the gut wrenching appeasement the Tories indulged in, when prompt action could have prevented the deaths of millions....

Want more? ASk this where is the money coming from to ay for this "Economic" upturn... Exports? Like hell they are, they are at an all time low its all borrowed (Sheds Full) and later you will pay....have a nice day :):):):)

1. Before you deify the one-eyed buffoon, you might consider who altered the regulations (and the means of regulation) which allowed the banks to run off and play 'casino' (Clue: It's the same buffoon who assured us that he'd abolished boom and bust).

2. I'm 99% certain that the individual you claim to remember was actually a civil servant complaining about the targeting of the Black Forest. In any event, you can console yourself that it was a Tory who led the charge in warning about Hitler and who led the fight in defeating him - or doesn't that count?
 
What are you talking about?............................................
Want more? ASk this where is the money coming from to ay for this "Economic" upturn... Exports? Like hell they are, they are at an all time low its all borrowed (Sheds Full) and later you will pay....have a nice day :):):):)

I too have along memory, devalued pound ("The pound in your pocket will not be worth less....") Gnomes of Zurich, having spending agreed (authorised) by the IMF..........
I can only assume your post was made in (ill informed/remembered) jest.

BTW, although I am no business expert, I understand that exports do not consist of tangible products. Don't we "export" financially?
 
BTW, although I am no business expert, I understand that exports do not consist of tangible products. Don't we "export" financially?

I think that's what used to be called "invisibles". Not so invisible now though. In a good year, I believe the City of London generates up to a third of government tax revenue. Hence the banks could tell Gordon to do one when he suggested increasing financial taxes. If they relocate abroad, Britain would be utterly stuffed.

I'm not sure why Ed and Hattie think the banks will treat them with less contempt than they treated Gordon and "Captain" Darling.
 

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