Another job oppertunity , more advice please

#1
A while back you all kindly offered me advice upon my ambition to return to work.
Up to now I have had a couple of temp assignments , saved up for my ( hopeful ) trip to FI, exposed a walt and got a better life thanks to you lot.
I have been offered an interview for a post divided between home and London. The interview requirements are rather exacting, I can I think comply with most of them except for one thing, and that is that I would be required to wear my prosthetic limbs.
They serve no real use apart from a cosmetic view, I cant walk using the “legs” and the “arms” in fact restricts my use of the typepad and wheelchair controls.
Your views please should I play along , look good but not perform or argue the toss.
Over to you , mild pi$$taking permitted.

BTW Mrs WW still is of the opinion I should not be going out and working in my condition anyway , so anything to annoy her.

WW
 
#2
If your prosthetic limbs serve no actual function then there is no reason for them to ask you to wear them.

Unless they would find it made them feel more comfortable, in which case, why the hell would you want to work for them anyway?

Explain to them that they are only of cosmetic value and see what they say.
 
#3
WHY would you have to wear them? If it's purely aesthetic, i say sod 'em,especially if you can argue that they'd have a detrimental effect on your ability to function! I'd argue til you go blue...if only to be a pain in the ass!
 
#4
I'd agree with Moody and bigbird, if they serve no true purpose and are only there for the 'look' and you find them to be a hinderance then it seems a little daft to use them.

Can the company justify their reasons for requesting this? If its because it makes them more comfortable then I don't see that as good enough.
 
#5
Most places will have you on a probation period, and can actually sack you in your first year for pretty much anything.

He is best to hammered all this out at point of interview and start things on an even keel.

If the only reason they want him to wear them is to make themselves feel better, then fcuk em. Who wants to work for tw@ts like that anyway?
 
#6
Play the game with them to get the post, then ditch the limbs(no pun intended) after the fact, I'm sure they would not fancy a law suit if they tried to force the issue. If they bring it up on interview, then tell them the truth, they are cosmetic and actually hinder you when worn.
 
#7
Agree to wearing them, and then turn up on your first day wearing these, carrying a copy of the Koran...



I'm sure they'll change their tune soon enough!


Seriously though, if they want you to wear them to make them feel better, then I would find somewhere else to work.
 
#8
devilish said:
Play the game with them to get the post, then ditch the limbs(no pun intended) after the fact, I'm sure they would not fancy a law suit if they tried to force the issue. If they bring it up on interview, then tell them the truth, they are cosmetic and actually hinder you when worn.
They wouldn't face a law suit! It's a piece of pi ss for any company to organise a sacking, and not for the real reason the want rid.

Get it sorted at interview point, you'll do yourself no favours if you do otherwise.
 
#9
Why conform just so they feel more comfortable, especially if it hinders you in anyway shape or form. I'm of the school of thought that an employer should be a partner to help you get the best out of yourself and I personally wouldn't work anywhere without this environment but that's just me you may be different.

So if it makes your life more difficult tell them, it's better to know from the start.

Oh a good luck with it mate!!
 
#10
Mr_Deputy said:
Moodybitch said:
Most places will have you on a probation period, and can actually sack you in your first year for pretty much anything.

For breaking company laws as set out in the company handbook which you must read and sign. I personally don't think it relates to the wearing of limbs as he can (correctly) claim they do more harm than good.

If needs be I can check into this. If it was me - I'd get my foot in the door (also no pun intended WW!) and take it from there. A row over this in interview stage would most likely marr any 'good feeling' they have about his application. Do what they want and if you want each other - then start doing the things you want when you can do so. Main thing = get the job.
The company handbook also will state that part of the job description is to "carry out any additional duties/requirements as set by the employer" this - although not stated, could be said of the refusal to wear prosthetic limbs.

If he gets the job and then pi sses them off as soon as he starts, it's not hard to get rid.
 
#11
WW, pretty much agree with Moddy's comments but also you've got to consider if you're to work there in the future, ensure you're comfortable with them also. The interview is a two way street, it's your opportunity to see who they are.

With regards to the limbs, the old rule applies - if it serves you no purpose, don't carry it.
 
#12
Mr_Deputy said:
no ok Moody - but work place logic is this - if I got on with my boss and I was in pain / being held back by having to wear something like that I think we'd talk it over as reasonably as we could and find a solution with me rather than sack me.
However, if I didn't have the job the job in the first place it'd all be academic.
I reckon get the job and sort these things out later. But if it comes to it I will look into it as I am a member of the Institute of Managers for what its worth and have followed their courses. I can find out from them directly if you require facts not opinions WW.
Crack on you tiresome little man, you aren't the only one with management experience (thats experience, not theoretical courses).

I'm not stating opinion, I'm stating the facts and if he hasn't already I would advise him to talk to acas, link below;

http://www.acas.org.uk/index.aspx?articleid=333


As a new employee he won't necessarily have the relationship with management to resolve issues, and he risks being viewed as underhand in his actions. NOT a good start to a new job.
 
#13
Hi WW.

Just to clarify, are they asking you to wear them just for the interview or for the job should you get it?

Thinking it through, they might, reasonably, be assuming that you are more capable with the limbs fitted and want to be able to assess you as such. A bit like being told to take your reading glasses to an eye test.

I'd say wear them and explain at the interview that they're more of a hindrance than a help. You might be able to demonstrate this quite readily.

Best of luck!
 
#14
Moody's right on this one it's so easy for a company to foxtrot oscar you off in the first few months if they want to.

If you go wearing the limbs and then turn round at a later date and say you're not wearing them they could easily say you mislead them at the interview, almost like lying on your CV.
 
#15
Yes but they need to have that conversation at point of interview.

The company have already requested that he wears them, prior to point of contract signing. Thus meaning that should a job offer be made, it could well be written into the contract.

If he signs and starts the job, then has the conversation about them, he will be in breech of contract and very easy to sack.

Not having a row with you Mr_Deputy, but you are talking out of your jacksie on this one. You have openly encouraged someone to lie to get their foot in the door. No manager would ever suggest that.
 
#16
I agree moody that a company can get rid of you within the first year and you really don't have a leg to stand on(that one was intended) but surely they can't MAKE WW wear his limbs if they hinder/are uncomfortable and thus make his ability to do his job more difficult?

I really cannot think of why they would want him to wear them as part of his job description other than to appease themselves or, more than likely, their customers.

Can you shed any light why they require you to wear them WW? PERSEC permitting, what is the job description?
 
#17
devilish said:
I agree moody that a company can get rid of you within the first year and you really don't have a leg to stand on(that one was intended) but surely they can't MAKE WW wear his limbs if they hinder/are uncomfortable and thus make his ability to do his job more difficult?

I really cannot think of why they would want him to wear them as part of his job description other than to appease themselves or, more than likely, their customers.
Absolutely agree, hence why I have advised him to have this conversation with them early in the application process.

They cannot MAKE him wear them, but if he signs a contract stating that he will, then they can sack him. Best to know whats what before he ends up in an awkward situation IMHO
 
#18
I spoke to my interviewers ADC late this afternoon and using the burkah/pregnancy/glasses analogy, asked if I may be excused wearing limbs as they will impair my operational performance. In a nutshell one member of the board will be a (civvi snivel serpent ). So its appears that is for effect. Rest of conversation carried on at some length on an almost social tone .
On that basis I have booked my flight south.
Thanks all it just needs that extra external input to put things in perspective, I am grateful to you all.

WW
 

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