I have to say that the FBU needs to rethink it's actions. The forces are not the stop-gap when some firefighter wants to go on strike and absolve themselves of responsibility.
Imagine the public reaction when the first 999 cals are made and there is a fatality. The cry will not be "Where is the Army/Navy/RAF"? It will rest soley with the brigade. That's what they get paid handsomly for and it is time now to earn it.
Failing that when we are short in the sandpit and the 'Gan can we get them to fill in for a while
I think the firemen (I refuse to use the psuedo macho/PC term 'Firefighter') Have good pay. good working conditions. I know nothing about the threat of fire station closure so can't comment on that. I agree that the FBU should think more carefully though. I think the public in general has seen too many strikes in too short a space of time.
Already the finger blame starts to point towards anyone but the strikers
We have been working hard on contingency plans to try to protect the residents of Hertfordshire, but there is no easy solution without military cover, which the Government has refused to provide.
"This will be the first time that firefighters have gone out on strike without military cover being available and other fire authorities could find themselves in the same situation in the coming months."
The Goddess's have been removed from service due to the fact the Gov has bought lots of proper fire engines now.
Remember the huge fire at the petrol refinery in Hemel? Well less than six months after that fire where there were not enough Firemen or appliancies the local council have decided that as they have over spent they will cut further fire jobs. So if that fire happens again it will take out the whole town. And yes it is the same local authority.
The Gov are playing Russian Roulette, saying that it is upto the local authority to provide cover, and will happily pass the buck over to them if there are any losses of life. When the reasons for the cuts in funding and therefore the direct cause for the strike it Uncle Tony's, just another slimy face saving action designed to pass the blame to others.
A little like all the cuts happening in the health service I supose........
And I better add I dont agree with striking, but I also dont know what else the fire crews are suposed to do to try and keep the cover need to save lives and property, but just standing there and taking it has shown not to work.
And the retained crews and stations (AFAIK) worked throughout the national strikes, a nice thankyou from their mates in the ODPM huh?
At least this time it isnt going to be too long, and hopefully there will be no injuries!
To be quite honest I feel rarther p****ed off when the FBU think they can rely on the Armed Forces to provide cover when they have 'issues' to sort out.
However, the one good thing about being in the Army (there are many more) is that we relish a challange and we thrive on taking the morale highground. If, and possible when we have to cover the Fire Brigade, we just get on with it. We're not doing it in a show of solidarity to our'Firefighter' brothers - f**k them. We are however doing it, because as always we are the last line of defense and the best suited to do it.
I personally, would much prefer to be doing something rather than nothing to prevent innocent people dying - if that is to be the case.
At no time do I support the strikes. From the impression I get, they seem to have it relatively easy compared to other members of the Services. They seem to be the only ones that have public support (the Police are inept and the Armed Forces are a bunch of gun toting hooligans), however, this support will soon diminish in the light of future striikes.
Hey, and you never know, if we put a positive spin on this and get the Media on our side we might get some good publicity out of it - but there again!!
Todayâs strike will act as a test for further disputes. The Government confirmed that there would be no emergency cover from the Armed Forces. Angela Smith, the Fire and Rescue Minister, said that using soldiers to cover the strike would have âan unacceptable impact on defence activitiesâ. Ms Smith said that the âgreen goddessesâ had been sold, and the Armed Forces had not been trained to operate new fire engines.
She said that after the White Paper on Fire Service reforms in 2003 it had been made clear that fire authorities should not be able to rely on the Armed Forces to provide cover.
âThey are simply not able to offer the same level of protection . . . and should not simply be rolled out to deal with each and every dispute,â she said.
its not about pay this time, your right you mostly are UNINFORMED.....Its about cutting cover, closing fire stations and jobs going. Your still paying your taxes but the service is getting withdrawn
but then you'd know all about being underfunded, understaffed and underachieving.
You'd better not look at what someone joining the Metropolitan Police gets then
On commencing training â Â£26,730
On completion of 18 weeks training â Â£29,103
After two years' training - Â£30,423
Free rail travel within a 70-mile radius of London
Sports and social clubs and facilities
Housing and accommodation support
Professional advice on health, welfare and safety issues
Financial services provision
....Remember the huge fire at the petrol refinery in Hemel? Well less than six months after that fire where there were not enough Firemen or appliancies the local council have decided that as they have over spent they will cut further fire jobs. So if that fire happens again it will take out the whole town. And yes it is the same local authority.....
I bet some young blood with an MBA has just realised that the disaster plan on which everything is based can now be rewritten because the incident marked "catastrophic - extremely unlikely - once in a blue moon" has now happened, and they can now save loads of money every year until the council in 2050 has to prepare for the next Big Bang!
Loads of money saved and gongs and promotion all round. Result!