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Another fine pay mess you've got me into.

#1
HELP!! PLEASE!!!

I am in a specialist role and entitled to the SP pay that goes along with it, magically it was stopped in Jan, after much deliberation with the men in the towers, i was told it is sorted. That was the beggining of last month and yet again this month there is no specialist pay and no back pay. What are my options on this, as we are told we are not allowed to contact JPAC ourselves and it all seems to be going around in circles. In the meantime leaving me and my family in great financial difficulty.

Regards.

I understand that this may attract banter, but please think before you post as sometimes your comments are not welcome. Sometimes rather destructive than constructive.
 
#2
You are entitled to an emergency payment. This will cause considerable nause, but that's tough, that's what they (agc) get paid for. Tell them you'll be doing it every month till it's sorted.
 
#4
The reason you got the pill was because it causes the lazy cnuts to have to do some work. Don't take no for an answer. Get someone in a position of authority to back you up if needs be (padres are good at shit-stirring, in more ways than one). Hopefully someone will give you a JSP reference to hit them with.
 
#5
The reason you got the pill was because it causes the lazy cnuts to have to do some work. Don't take no for an answer. Get someone in a position of authority to back you up if needs be (padres are good at shit-stirring, in more ways than one). Hopefully someone will give you a JSP reference to hit them with.
Thanks Joe, any takers with the JSP heads up on EPICs if its what its called.
 

Forastero

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#6
Joe tried that, but got a big FO pill, am on the verge of a service complaint and involving the AWS.

Many thanks for you advice though
I was going to say that an SC won't solve anything in the short term but actually the threat of writing one may well spur somebody into action. Do you not have a senior or even a Pl Comd (or equivalent) who can go into bat for you?
 
#7
EPIC sounds right. It's in JSP 754, but as I don't have dii at present, I can't give you any more than that.
 
#9
Dont tell them you're in shit street financially because theyve mucked up your specialist pay though. That will get the same treatment as "you shouldnt budget for LOA/LSA/whatever" from them,no doubt.
 
#10
I was going to say that an SC won't solve anything in the short term but actually the threat of writing one may well spur somebody into action. Do you not have a senior or even a Pl Comd (or equivalent) who can go into bat for you?
Cheers, all the Adults have been batting already and got the old "its been sorted", The problem lies with Glasgow so i was told this morning. Mind you a SC got a mate of mine his money near as immediately.
 
#11
Dont tell them you're in shit street financially because theyve mucked up your specialist pay though. That will get the same treatment as "you shouldnt budget for LOA/LSA/whatever" from them,no doubt.
Haven't said that to them............. at the end of the day though it is part of my ROS in my job i have to give them so many years in my role and they give me what is meant to be extra pay every month and they cant seem to get it right.............Trust me i am not the only one in the same boat.
 

Forastero

LE
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#12
Cheers, all the Adults have been batting already and got the old "its been sorted", The problem lies with Glasgow so i was told this morning. Mind you a SC got a mate of mine his money near as immediately.
Got you. Start honking about putting an SC together, that usually gets people's hoops puckering up in a big way.
 
#15
All the best anyway,its ridiculous things like this still happen these days.
I know, if it was civvi street it would not happen, if it did, it would be sorted before the main pay run.

Which i am told APC cant do as spec pay can only go on the retro run?!

I just hate it as people up there dont seem to give a oss about what we do for or wages................... as long as they are alright, thats ok!
 
#16
EPIC sounds right. It's in JSP 754, but as I don't have dii at present, I can't give you any more than that.
Joe its Chapter 2 section 1

Quote: "c. Where an individual has not received additional pay, refunds and/or allowances that they might reasonably have expected to receive in a given month"

I believe i will fire this at them tommorrow as i am expecting a call from the ivory tower on the matter.
 
#17
Good. Also, it is not unreasonable to expect your SP to be paid correctly, so if you have been financially embarrassed as a result of this, you are also due recompense (ie if you have incurred bank charges that you would otherwise not have faced, you can get this paid for). Treat this as a separate thing though once your SP is sorted, or they will drag their heels over the initial non-payment. From memory, you have three months to tell them.
 
#18
Trust me it was identified on the 24th January when it all started and reported the 25th January and i have an email trail since then.................... so i would love to see them try to pull that one!
 
#19
No change in rank or circumstances, what SP pay are you referring to? PM if you don't want people to see mate as I have 754 open on DII
 
#20
What's the SP for?

Have you changed PID recently?
 

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