Another Ebay Mug

Have you been ripped off on ebay?

  • no, they are the bees knees

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  • yes, done up like a kipper

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#1
It appears I have been done up like a kipper, having been paid £85 for a supposedly original sign off the Berlin Wall. I fully expect incoming on that alone. :roll: My point is, having received it, I have seen more convincing Rolexes on a market stall in Patpong :eek:

In truth, I am seething, having been suckered like that, although in fairness this is the first time I have had a negative experience on E-bay, every other transaction I have been delighted with.

Does anyone have any ideas how I can address this little, ahem, issue, vis-a-vis getting a refund/publicising this dodgy seller :evil:

I fully expect flak on this one, but the odd sensible reply would be gratefully received!!



Helmet/armoured vest on and standing by......
 
#2
Buy sensible stuff then. You should be looking for all the SAS/commando/Para gear its all gen
 
#3
If you paid by PayPal I am led to believe that any grievance tends to be sorted out in favour of the buyer.

Hope that helps.
 
#4
how do you know it isn't the Berlin wall?
 
#5
Yes, i paid by PP. I have fired off a message to the seller, thought it only right to give him a chance to rectify things. If no joy there, I will speak to e-bay. How will I receive a refund from paypal, as surely they would need proof the item wasn't genuine?
 
#8
Give some more details of the item you think is a con, marco_poloroid. I'm sure enough ARRSErs, including me, spent long enough in Berlin to be able to say with some certainty whether it's pukka or not.

If it was from the East-Berlin side, then I'm you're man, since I spent a year there when it was still the GDR.

MsG
 
#9
chocolate_frog said:
how do you know it isn't the Berlin wall?
I bid for a warning sign, which was on the Eastern side, warning citizens to stay away. It's clearly dodgy, it appears to be a facsimile, but the signs of wear are just so contrived, and the clear areas, where the bolts supposedly were, are misaligned. If you saw it, you would p!$$ yourself laughing, believe me.

I feel like, I have been, in chav parlance, 'well mugged off' :oops:
 
#10
marco_poloroid said:
Yes, i paid by PP. I have fired off a message to the seller, thought it only right to give him a chance to rectify things. If no joy there, I will speak to e-bay. How will I receive a refund from paypal, as surely they would need proof the item wasn't genuine?
I'm not 100% on this but I think that a complaint is sufficient to cause them to claw back the payment. I have seen some comments in financial articles about how their policy can leave a seller without goods or money. I think that it is to do with keeping buyer confidence high.
 
#11
i bought something on ebay, nothing expensive (dvd). i paid for it the money cleared etc etc but never rx'd the dvd. i emailed the seller 3 times but it didn't reply. i then opened a complaint to paypal and they allow 30 days or something for the seller to explain. if after 30 days it is still not sorted then paypal do there investigation and then pay out to whoever has been mugged. (you) i got a full refund. lesson - do research on the seller before you buy.
 
#12
Bugsy said:
Give some more details of the item you think is a con, marco_poloroid. I'm sure enough ARRSErs, including me, spent long enough in Berlin to be able to say with some certainty whether it's pukka or not.

If it was from the East-Berlin side, then I'm you're man, since I spent a year there when it was still the GDR.

MsG
Nice one mate. Do you know how to hyperlink the offending article? To be fair, you would struggle to determine it was dodgy from the item listing. However, as soon as you saw it in the flesh, any remaining dout would e dispelled. I am truly gutted, I am as fascinated by the Berlin Wall as I was when I went through Charlie as a kid in the 70's, and was also, completely by chance, there when the wall fell. So owning a piece was a very personal thing. Which is probaby why I'm gutted, I suppose my mistake was getting emotions in the way of a commercial transaction.

Having lived over there, do you know if these signs would be available? I have not seen any others on the internet, other than some gash American copies. This one is the one that says:
SPERRGEBIET.

Unbefugten ist das Betreten
Befahren und die bildliche
Darstellung verboten.
Zuwiderhandlungen werden bestraft.

It was linked to a site with an 'identical' sign. Clearly a piece of cake to copy. I imagined the original would have been metal/enamel. This one is pressed wood, with what appears to be a formica type covering, with the words facsimiled onto it. What convinced me it's fake, is the bolt holes have been coloured to make it look like rust, but the rust doesn't rub off. Furthermore, the circles where the bolts supposedly were, are totally smooth, whereas bolts would have marked the sign when removed.

I'd better stop now, my temperature is ising again!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil:
 
#13
I got swindled by some little Chinese f***er once and I got justice.

If you happened to pay with a Visa card, you can ring your bank and to them what has happened and as long as you provide sufficient evidence that you have contacted all the necessary people Paypal, Ebay and the Seller then within 10 days you get your money back.

Not only did the Seller send me the real deal in the end and my money with a free Chinese takeaway token (yeah I’m going to go all the way to china for that privilege) I also got my money back off Visa too boot.

Not bad :D :D
 
#14
Percy: Look (he takes a red cloth from his sleeve), I have here a true relic.

Edmund: What is it?

Percy: (unwraps the cloth) It is a bone from the finger of Our Lord. It cost me 31 pieces of silver.

Edmund: Good lord. Is it real?

Percy: It is, My Lord. Baldrick, you stand amazed.

Baldrick: I am - I thought they only came in boxes of ten. (he opens a box of finger bones)

:D
 
#16
Ex_ex said:
Percy: Look (he takes a red cloth from his sleeve), I have here a true relic.

Edmund: What is it?

Percy: (unwraps the cloth) It is a bone from the finger of Our Lord. It cost me 31 pieces of silver.

Edmund: Good lord. Is it real?

Percy: It is, My Lord. Baldrick, you stand amazed.

Baldrick: I am - I thought they only came in boxes of ten. (he opens a box of finger bones)

:D
Do you think I should send my original 'Haywain' by Constable back to Zwind Lin Fo Kwa's Masterpiece Emporium then? :eek:
 
#18
Im currently assisting the Police in a case against a E-Bay dealer here in the UK, seems what he was selling was 'made' in the back of his house, however i found E-Bay and Paypal to be as much help as if i had called British Gas to say ive a flat tyre.

So was somewhat relieved when i found the Police were involved, turns out that someone rather than get no help off e-bay contacted the old Bill and that worked. E-Bay now very helpful (dont want bad publicity)again.

However not much use seeing its overseas, but just a word of advice for over here
 
#19
marco_poloroid said:
Bugsy said:
Give some more details of the item you think is a con, marco_poloroid. I'm sure enough ARRSErs, including me, spent long enough in Berlin to be able to say with some certainty whether it's pukka or not.

If it was from the East-Berlin side, then I'm you're man, since I spent a year there when it was still the GDR.

MsG
Nice one mate. Do you know how to hyperlink the offending article? To be fair, you would struggle to determine it was dodgy from the item listing. However, as soon as you saw it in the flesh, any remaining dout would e dispelled. I am truly gutted, I am as fascinated by the Berlin Wall as I was when I went through Charlie as a kid in the 70's, and was also, completely by chance, there when the wall fell. So owning a piece was a very personal thing. Which is probaby why I'm gutted, I suppose my mistake was getting emotions in the way of a commercial transaction.

Having lived over there, do you know if these signs would be available? I have not seen any others on the internet, other than some gash American copies. This one is the one that says:
SPERRGEBIET.

Unbefugten ist das Betreten
Befahren und die bildliche
Darstellung verboten.
Zuwiderhandlungen werden bestraft.

It was linked to a site with an 'identical' sign. Clearly a piece of cake to copy. I imagined the original would have been metal/enamel. This one is pressed wood, with what appears to be a formica type covering, with the words facsimiled onto it. What convinced me it's fake, is the bolt holes have been coloured to make it look like rust, but the rust doesn't rub off. Furthermore, the circles where the bolts supposedly were, are totally smooth, whereas bolts would have marked the sign when removed.

I'd better stop now, my temperature is ising again!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil:
I know you realise it already, mate, but you really have been conned. ALL the signs on the East-Berlin side of the wall were enamel! Black script on a white background. Maybe it'd be a good idea to just start a thread with a query if you fancy buying anything else.

If you really want a pukka memento of the Berlin Wall and East Germany, PM me with your moniker and address and I'll send you a genuine metal "DDR" plate like the "GB" sign on the back of Brit cars. The East Germans used to have them on a little bracket sticking up above the back bumper. Strange habits indeed.

I hope you get your dosh back and I also hope you name and shame the culprit so that other ARRSErs don't become victims.

MsG
 
#20
Bugsy said:
marco_poloroid said:
Bugsy said:
Give some more details of the item you think is a con, marco_poloroid. I'm sure enough ARRSErs, including me, spent long enough in Berlin to be able to say with some certainty whether it's pukka or not.

If it was from the East-Berlin side, then I'm you're man, since I spent a year there when it was still the GDR.

MsG
Nice one mate. Do you know how to hyperlink the offending article? To be fair, you would struggle to determine it was dodgy from the item listing. However, as soon as you saw it in the flesh, any remaining dout would e dispelled. I am truly gutted, I am as fascinated by the Berlin Wall as I was when I went through Charlie as a kid in the 70's, and was also, completely by chance, there when the wall fell. So owning a piece was a very personal thing. Which is probaby why I'm gutted, I suppose my mistake was getting emotions in the way of a commercial transaction.

Having lived over there, do you know if these signs would be available? I have not seen any others on the internet, other than some gash American copies. This one is the one that says:
SPERRGEBIET.

Unbefugten ist das Betreten
Befahren und die bildliche
Darstellung verboten.
Zuwiderhandlungen werden bestraft.

It was linked to a site with an 'identical' sign. Clearly a piece of cake to copy. I imagined the original would have been metal/enamel. This one is pressed wood, with what appears to be a formica type covering, with the words facsimiled onto it. What convinced me it's fake, is the bolt holes have been coloured to make it look like rust, but the rust doesn't rub off. Furthermore, the circles where the bolts supposedly were, are totally smooth, whereas bolts would have marked the sign when removed.

I'd better stop now, my temperature is ising again!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil:
I know you realise it already, mate, but you really have been conned. ALL the signs on the East-Berlin side of the wall were enamel! Black script on a white background. Maybe it'd be a good idea to just start a thread with a query if you fancy buying anything else.

If you really want a pukka memento of the Berlin Wall and East Germany, PM me with your moniker and address and I'll send you a genuine metal "DDR" plate like the "GB" sign on the back of Brit cars. The East Germans used to have them on a little bracket sticking up above the back bumper. Strange habits indeed.

I hope you get your dosh back and I also hope you name and shame the culprit so that other ARRSErs don't become victims.

MsG
Buggsy, you're a star. It ain't over yet mate, after the incoming, the only fake things he'll be picking up will be his teeth. The chut. I will update with progress. I am not discounting the miniscule possibility that the seller was conned too, but I am going to get to the bottom of it.
Regards your kind offer, that sounds bang on. PM incoming.

Thanks everyone for the input, I even enjoyed the pi$$taking :D
 

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