Another Bloody Medal Question!!!!

#1
Does anyone know if you can have a Gallantry Award upgraded? I have been asked because of an incident where other personnel recieved higher awards simply because they chain of command took a dislike to somebody.
 
#2
What? Are you asking that if someone is awarded something like the Air Force Cross, and they don't like it, can they have a GC or VC instead?
 
#3
medal envy goes up a notch!
 
#4
So having a gallantry award that 99.5% of the army, let alone the population, doesn't have isn't good enough? He must have had a spine to get it, tell him to ask for it back.
 
#6
Can I get my Silver Swimming Award medal upgraded??
 
#7
saintstone said:
Can I get my Silver Swimming Award medal upgraded??
I did, I gave Labour a (cough) donation and it was upgraded to a Knighthood for swimming services!
 
#9
lookslikeayeti said:
Does anyone know if you can have a Gallantry Award upgraded? I have been asked because of an incident where other personnel recieved higher awards simply because they chain of command took a dislike to somebody.
There are cases were a medal previously given has been changed - I would say upgraged is the wrong word.

I am thinking of the Albert Medal, Edward Medal and Empire Gallantry Medal being "exchanged" for the George Cross. There are a few cases of this happening.

www.gc-database.co.uk
 
#10
Oh how I laugh! There is however, a serious issue here, so does anybody have a definitive yes or no? The person concerned happens to be my father and I have only just discovered what he did and why he got the award.
 
#11
lookslikeayeti said:
Oh how I laugh! There is however, a serious issue here, so does anybody have a definitive yes or no? The person concerned happens to be my father and I have only just discovered what he did and why he got the award.
Tell us bit more and we might be able to help.
 
#14
Perhaps upgrade is the wrong word and should be changed. Basically he was awarded a BEM when the rest of his patrol were awarded a MM due to his OC/CO (not sure what he was at the time) having a personal vendetta against my father. My brother has asked me about this and as far as I am aware has no knowledge that we are enquiring. So is it yes or no?
 
#15
lookslikeayeti said:
Perhaps upgrade is the wrong word and should be changed. Basically he was awarded a BEM when the rest of his patrol were awarded a MM due to his OC/CO (not sure what he was at the time) having a personal vendetta against my father. My brother has asked me about this and as far as I am aware has no knowledge that we are enquiring. So is it yes or no?
You need to give us a bit more - plus, and forgive me if I am wrong, then the BEM could also be awarded for bravery AND leadership (in much the way as the DSO is).

If that's the case then maybe he did something above the recognition of the MM.
 
#16
KnifeFightingMonkey said:
lookslikeayeti said:
Perhaps upgrade is the wrong word and should be changed. Basically he was awarded a BEM when the rest of his patrol were awarded a MM due to his OC/CO (not sure what he was at the time) having a personal vendetta against my father. My brother has asked me about this and as far as I am aware has no knowledge that we are enquiring. So is it yes or no?
You need to give us a bit more - plus, and forgive me if I am wrong, then the BEM could also be awarded for bravery AND leadership (in much the way as the DSO is).

If that's the case then maybe he did something above the recognition of the MM.
KFM you beat me to it.

I too always thought the BEM- military- was a higher award than the MM
 
#17
WW2, Korea, Malaysia, NI, The Gulf?
Not being an expert on medals, but surely there would be time limit on appeals (not the right word but I can't think of a more appropriate)?
On the other hand, BEMs haven't been issued for a while (1993 I think), so surely having that is "kudos" in i's own right? After all, your family know about the deeds your father did to earn it. Isn't that enough? I think it would be very hard to prove a grudge.
Also, see your PMs
 
#18
lookslikeayeti said:
Does anyone know if you can have a Gallantry Award upgraded? I have been asked because of an incident where other personnel recieved higher awards simply because they chain of command took a dislike to somebody.
No you cannot, unlike the yanks, once you got it thats it......if you want a bigger one you will have to do it all again......
 
#19
archer said:
KnifeFightingMonkey said:
lookslikeayeti said:
Perhaps upgrade is the wrong word and should be changed. Basically he was awarded a BEM when the rest of his patrol were awarded a MM due to his OC/CO (not sure what he was at the time) having a personal vendetta against my father. My brother has asked me about this and as far as I am aware has no knowledge that we are enquiring. So is it yes or no?
You need to give us a bit more - plus, and forgive me if I am wrong, then the BEM could also be awarded for bravery AND leadership (in much the way as the DSO is).

If that's the case then maybe he did something above the recognition of the MM.
KFM you beat me to it.

I too always thought the BEM- military- was a higher award than the MM
I thinkit is...in the order of wear wouldn't it come before the MM?
 
#20
archer said:
KnifeFightingMonkey said:
lookslikeayeti said:
Perhaps upgrade is the wrong word and should be changed. Basically he was awarded a BEM when the rest of his patrol were awarded a MM due to his OC/CO (not sure what he was at the time) having a personal vendetta against my father. My brother has asked me about this and as far as I am aware has no knowledge that we are enquiring. So is it yes or no?
You need to give us a bit more - plus, and forgive me if I am wrong, then the BEM could also be awarded for bravery AND leadership (in much the way as the DSO is).

If that's the case then maybe he did something above the recognition of the MM.
KFM you beat me to it.

I too always thought the BEM- military- was a higher award than the MM
Not a higher award - maybe for different things (think MC/MM compared to QGM) both level 3 awards but for different things.

I think (again I am not sure) the MBE can still be awarded for bravery. Peter Gurney was awarded the MBE(G) as a bomb disposal officer for the Met - in addition to 2 GMs.

The MBE(G) could be wrong, however.
 

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