Anglo-French Deal Upsets Neighbors

Discussion in 'Current Affairs, News and Analysis' started by fantassin, Jun 15, 2011.

Welcome to the Army Rumour Service, ARRSE

The UK's largest and busiest UNofficial military website.

The heart of the site is the forum area, including:

  1. The return of the Axis... ;-)

    Germans, Italians Warn of '2-Tier Europe'

    ROME - Italy's defense industry has launched a fight against a France-U.K. deal on defense cooperation that it believes is weakening European industrial integration, and it has won backing from Germany's industrial association.

    "Everyone is worried that the Anglo-French deal will lead to a two-tier Europe," said Remo Pertica, the chairman of AIAD, the Italian defense manufacturers' association. AIAD is promoting a raft of new European research and development programs that it hopes will rival the Anglo-French effort.

    In November, France and the United Kingdom signed a wide-ranging defense accord, envisioning bilateral cooperation on a range of technologies, from missiles to UAVs.

    Alarm bells immediately rang in Rome over the perceived threat to future joint European programs in which Italy could participate.

    Anglo-French Deal Upsets Neighbors - Defense News
  2. These would be the same countries that generally drag their heels when it comes to most of the recent conflicts?
  3. I'll get worried about what Italy thinks when it joins the 1st world.
  4. So that is the Italians who make all the reverse gears and all the glass for the bottom of vessels.
  5. Bouillabaisse

    Bouillabaisse LE Book Reviewer

    Sod the neighbours, it upsets me. The only military association we should have with the French involves shooting Frenchmen, the capture Paris and enjoying the collaborating French maidens. And I'm not overly hung up on the need to capture Paris - its a shitehole
    • Like Like x 4
  6. Be afraid, be very very afraid :- YouTube - ‪Captain Alberto Bertorelli from Allo' Allo' !‬‏ :)
  7. Alsacien

    Alsacien LE Moderator

    It seems the Italians do make a valuable contribution to UN deployments:


    Every cloud...
  8. Don't we already have a two tier-if not three or four tier- when it comes to military matters in Europe? Surely the likes of Luxembourg, Ireland, Belgium, portugal, etc etc aren't considered as being in the same class as the UK and France. There's always been a big fish little fish scenario in europe and no matter how much they like to think otherwise, the Italians have been distinctly in the middle for centuries
  9. Bouillabaisse

    Bouillabaisse LE Book Reviewer

    By Italian standards they're munters
  10. Stuff the Bepo,s, and their garlic breath
  11. They were good enough to buy out Westlands from under British ownership and maintain a stranglehold on MoD contracts.
  12. How interesting. Axis vs. Allied again. (And Italy is STILL the junior partner.) ;-) :-D
  13. I've never quite got why the Eyeties were said to have all the reverse gears - they managed quite a long time in WWII before surrendering.

    If anything, the Frogs should have the 1 forward, 6 reverse-geared tanks, and the Italians double ended ones to allow them to change sides more easily.
  14. Meh, too late to cry about this now. They had 2 decades from the "end" of the CW to now to sort something out and they didn't want it....Us too, our "neutrality" being an imaginary fig leaf as we depended on others to actually protect us unlike the other "neutral/non alligned" nations in Europe who invested in their defences.

    The UK and France said **** it and are actually doing something concrete.
  15. UK+France: Capability to reach out, kill people, break things and make self illuminating, glass surfaced car parks.

    Rest of EU: Spectators and window lickers