Angela Rayner PM?

[Gone2ratshat]

It's a "normal way of life" to have something you can't afford?
How about make some savings, get on the housing ladder, chase a decent job before deciding to have kids and thinking society owes you.

Like I said you have no normal life experience.

 

[Cold_Collation]

It’s not just housing they put a strain on, NHS, education, crime, and the list goes on.

Good night all.

A friend of mine is a specialist pharmacist. A few years ago*, Crawley in West Sussex had the highest proportion of HIV infection in the UK.

The cause wasn't the white population. It was the sub-Saharan African.

I remember Farage in debate before the general election on TV a few years back. Each of those treatment packages costs (from memory, from his speech) £10k. Each one.



*Qualifier, as I don't know if it still is. I should find out.

 

[Agony_Aunt]

It's a "normal way of life" to have something you can't afford?
How about make some savings, get on the housing ladder, chase a decent job before deciding to have kids and thinking society owes you.

Society does owe something to those who work hard and pay taxes. It's called a 'social contract'.

 

[stacker1]

Society does owe something to those who work hard and pay taxes. It's called a 'social contract'.

Did you sign that social contract?
A lot of people who work hard, do well for themselves, not have children when they are young and expect a handout.

 

[Gone2ratshat]

I've also been married for the last 7 years.

Is the traditional British lifestyle to take no responsibility for you actions?
It's funny how this site gets upset with benefit scroungers but think other people (them and/or their relatives) should get free/cheap stuff.

Any comment on why the poor masses who can't afford to buy a house didn't join the army in the last 30 years or so?

I can't be bothered to dig it up but you did state you weren't married a while back, anyway who said anyone should get free/ cheap stuff, I said anyone who holds down a full time job should be able to afford a basic house, the country has to have people working on production lines and doing other manual work, they can't all join the Army as workers taxes finance the Army.

 

[stacker1]

Like I said you have no normal life experience.

Yeah right, normally said by people who cant be arsed to help themselves and want to blame others.

 

[stacker1]

I can't be bothered to dig it up but you did state you weren't married a while back,

Was that 7 years ago perhaps?

anyway who said anyone should get free/ cheap stuff, I said anyone who holds down a full time job should be able to afford a basic house, the country has to have people working on production lines and doing other manual work, they can't all join the Army as workers taxes finance the Army.

Lots of people hold down a full time job and buy a house. Roughly 2/3 of the UK own their own house

Lots of people in the past had a full time job and never owned a house in their lives.

I didnt say they all had to join the army, Im asking why they decided a job that paid a regular wage, a job that came with subsidised housing, a job that allows you to buy and rent property wasnt good enough for them?

 

[Toastie]

Live within your means and move to chase work/cheaper housing.
Not have kids and expect a cheap house.

I know some people find it hard and it's shit when wages are low, but they need to get off their arse and do something about it.

I also use this example, why has the army struggled to recruit nearly every year for the last 30 years? Regular pay, subsidised House, opportunity for buying and renting your own house. Yet people didn't take it.

Ooh, me, me, I know that one.

Because to have all that a bit of effort was required on the recipient’s part.

I left in 1989 with no pension and no resettlement. I dug ditches, laid railway track, mucked out stables and much else to fund my own training for a new career.

I met wife and we both had 3 jobs going on including her waitressing at a pub which had the enormous advantage of being able to take excess food home from the kitchens. We lived in a 1 room bed sit. When I needed to go away on courses I borrowed a rancid caravan and lived in a lay-by. 5’ LCD tellies weren’t a thing back then but if they were, they’d be at the bottom of our list (our current single TV is 15 years old).

I don’t so much blame the scrounging classes, after all, if we’re honest and someone says “here, have something for nothing” we’d all take their arm off. I blame the retards that have put that all in place.

People like Angela fecking Rayner.

Anyway, back to work*. Someone needs to pay for it all.

*lying by a pool in Thailand but feck it, I’ve paid my dues.

 

[stacker1]

Because to have all that a bit of effort was required on the recipient’s part.

Something Gone2ratshat doesnt understand, merely being a young married couple with young children somehow means you should be able to buy a house.

 

[Toastie]

Something Gone2ratshat doesnt understand, merely being a young married couple with young children somehow means you should be able to buy a house.

If you put effort in, you should. That’s the difference. Just existing is not the same thing.

Where the problem lies at least in part is the ridiculous inflation in house prices particularly when connected to the infatuation with living in / near London.

That would of course be wholly unconnected with huge amounts of housing stock being bought up to convert into high cost / low value rental accommodation for the feckless and / or non indigenous to live in whilst the rent is paid by……

And who created that scenario? See above.

 

[stacker1]

If you put effort in, you should. That’s the difference. Just existing is not the same thing.

Where the problem lies at least in part is the ridiculous inflation in house prices particularly when connected to the infatuation with living in / near London.

Move elsewhere. Problem solved.

That would of course be wholly unconnected with huge amounts of housing stock being bought up to convert into high cost / low value rental accommodation for the feckless and / or non indigenous to live in whilst the rent is paid by……

And who created that scenario? See above.

London sounds a bit of an expensive shithole, I wouldnt live there.

 

[Toastie]

Move elsewhere. Problem solved.




London sounds a bit of an expensive shithole, I wouldnt live there.

Did just that because yes it is.

 

[Agony_Aunt]

Did you sign that social contract?
A lot of people who work hard, do well for themselves, not have children when they are young and expect a handout.

Oh, I thought hardworking people were entitled to something in return for the fuckton of taxes they pay. I thought taxes partly funded education, childcare and whatever help a hardworking family might need.

 

[stacker1]

Oh, I thought hardworking people were entitled to something in return for the fuckton of taxes they pay. I thought taxes partly funded education, childcare and whatever help a hardworking family might need.

Did you? Why "fuckton" of taxes do people on 25k pay?
And what do they get back if they have 2 kids in terms of child benefit, education and medical care?

 

[Slime]

It is truly embarrassing to have it as the deputy Labour leader….

Emily Thornberry was asked about Rayner yesterday on TalkRadio.

She said she had called for Matt Hancock to resign when he had an affair as he had broken covid regulations.
She had no negative comment at all to say about Rayner.

My impression was that Thornberry (and the Labour front bench) hope the public have forgotten the jibes and criticism made against Boris Johnson for being unfaithful.

 

[Gone2ratshat]

Something Gone2ratshat doesnt understand, merely being a young married couple with young children somehow means you should be able to buy a house.

No, I believe a young married couple who work should be able to afford a basic house , the amount they earn isnt always the key to getting a mortgage as you cant get a mortgage on zero hours contracts which many have to work under, bear in mind rents are so high due to housing shortages that getting a deposit together for a £250k house (UK average price for a 2 bed house) is not easy by any stretch , throw kids into the mix and its impossible , the UK needs kid producing families as there will be an even bigger semi skilled worker shortage in the future .
Child producing couples should be encouraged or else there will be no one to wipe the dribble from your chin when you are sitting in your care home in a few years.

 

[beefer]

My nephew and his wife are both teachers and between them earn good money. They can’t afford a house.






Because they spent 30 fückin grand on their wedding.

 

[Agony_Aunt]

Did you? Why "fuckton" of taxes do people on 25k pay?
And what do they get back if they have 2 kids in terms of child benefit, education and medical care?

Plus NI and VAT. That's a fair amount of income going into the pot.

 

[GrumpyWasTooCheerful]

Did you? Why "fuckton" of taxes do people on 25k pay?
And what do they get back if they have 2 kids in terms of child benefit, education and medical care?

Where do you get the taxpayers of the future from if people can no longer afford to have children?
Who will pay for your Army pension and state pension in 10/20/30 years time?

 

[Gone2ratshat]

Where do you get the taxpayers of the future from if people can no longer afford to have children?
Who will pay for your Army pension and state pension in 10/20/30 years time?

Correct , too many dont think beyond the now.

The UK desperately needs to produce kids as without them the alternative will be to bring in more and more immigrant workers along with all their problems.