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Andrew Brons - Im not a racist but......

#1
Without wanting to go into the intricacies of BNP policies, after seeing this article in today's Telegraph I was wondering, just how much of the population falls under this description?

Mr Brons, who became the first member of the British National Party to be elected to the European Parliament, has said that the athlete's mixed race heritage means she is "only partially from this country".

The BNP – which bars blacks or Asians from joining – rejects the notion of a multicultural society and refuses to consider black and ethnic minorities to be British, even if they or their parents were born here.

But until now it has been careful not to single out noted ethnic minority celebrities for fear of provoking a public backlash.

His comments have provoked anger from politicians and sporting bodies.

Liberal Democrat MP Ed Davey said: “This type of comment reveals the ugly face of the BNP which they try to hide from voters yet is at the heart of their extremism.”

The British Olympic Association added: “Dame Kelly Holmes played an important part in Team GB as a hugely successful British athlete. We are immensely proud of her achievements.

"Team GB is not about the colour of your skin, it is about performing at the highest level while representing this country at Olympic events.”

Mr Brons, who began his political life as a member of the neo-Nazi National Socialist Movement, said he rejected the notion that Black or Asian members of the community could be British, even if they were born here.

He said: "I don't accept the term Black British or Asian British. Britons are the indigenous peoples of these isles."

Asked about someone like Dame Kelly, who was born in Kent of a white English mother and Jamaican father, and served for several years in the Army before becoming one of this country's most successful athletes, he said: "Kelly Holmes is only partially from this country, even if she is an integrated member of the community."

Mr Brons, 61, went on to reject the idea that black footballers, such as Emile Heskey and Jermain Defoe, who represented England against Andorra last Wednesday, could be regarded as British.

He said: "They are British citizens – which is a legal concept – but not British by identity. That's not a pejorative description, it is just stating a fact about their racial identity."

The BNP's ultimate aim – as laid down in its constitution – is a return to a predominately white Britain that existed before the 1948 Nationality Act.
So where does this leave the Royal Family then? Does this mean Prince Charles is "only partially from this country"?
 

Nehustan

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#3
What...someone having a go at Kelly Holmes!!! Outrageous...I love her!!! Jamaican father...well that means she probably has a good chunk of Irish, Scots, (Welsh?) and English blood for generations before her father ever married her 'white' mother...
 
#4
Bugsy said:
I know it's not really the subject of the thread, but does anybody know the BNP take on Micks? Are we "allowed" or not?

MsG
Errrrr, no idea :D
Besides, very few people actually care what the BNP want. There is an outside hope (of at least a million people) that voting the BNP will force the mainstream to actually acknowledge and deal with asylum and immigration issues.


I suppose I may be inclined to agree with Mr Brons on one thing, I dislike the Asian British or Black British type of discription. To my mind you are either British or you are not. Colour or religion is nothing to do with it. It might be an unpopular opinion but I'm afraid the choice is simple, you are British or you aren't. There isn't anything inbetween.
 
#6
To be quite honest, I don't think I have ever heard of Black British - its a yank thing that hasn't made it over here, has it?
 
#7
they love infact they love you so much they want to "invite" eire to join the federation of the UK :roll:
what with there plan to hand out assualt rifles to every able bodied man what could possibly go wrong :roll:

if they were'nt racists everyone would have realized just how loony they are
 
#8
they love you so much they want to "invite" eire to join the federation of the UK :roll:
what with there plan to hand out assualt rifles to every able bodied man what could possibly go wrong :roll:

if they were'nt racists everyone would have realized just how loony they are
 

Nehustan

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#10
Whet said:
To be quite honest, I don't think I have ever heard of Black British - its a yank thing that hasn't made it over here, has it?
Black British is quite a common usuage. In America the use of Black has slightly subsided, partly as a result of afrocentric thought, the preferred term is African-American I think...

(edited to add, there seems to be quite a lively debate on the issue)
 
#11
I agree, there are no grades of Britishness. You are, or you aren't.

I never understood the whole Afro-American thing either. All Americans are immigrants, so labelling some as Afro-Americans, and others as simply American, doesn't make sense.

As for the Dame Kelly issue, the BNP could take a few pages from her book.

Service to her country and its armed forces, honoured by HM The Queen, represented the UK in sport, I think that meets a "British concept" of identity.

What filth the BNP are.
 
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benjaminw1

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#13
Who fecking cares what some evil national socialist says; if anyone, black, white, brown or yellow, subscribes to British values and contributes emotionally, physically or financially to this realm they Are British.
 

Sixty

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#16
Dame Kelly is an ex-squaddie which is rather more than can be said of that fat prick Griffin or the anti-semite Brons.
 
#17
Nehustan said:
Whet said:
To be quite honest, I don't think I have ever heard of Black British - its a yank thing that hasn't made it over here, has it?
Black British is quite a common usuage. In America the use of Black has slightly subsided, partly as a result of afrocentric thought, the preferred term is African-American I think...

(edited to add, there seems to be quite a lively debate on the issue)
African American is so last year. Had much in depth discussion with young American Navy guy. as far as he is concerned black is the term to be used. His argument is that Charlize Theron can claim to be as Afro American as he was.
 

Nehustan

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#18
old_n_fat said:
Nehustan said:
Whet said:
To be quite honest, I don't think I have ever heard of Black British - its a yank thing that hasn't made it over here, has it?
Black British is quite a common usuage. In America the use of Black has slightly subsided, partly as a result of afrocentric thought, the preferred term is African-American I think...

(edited to add, there seems to be quite a lively debate on the issue)
African American is so last year. Had much in depth discussion with young American Navy guy. as far as he is concerned black is the term to be used. His argument is that Charlize Theron can claim to be as Afro American as he was.
I was just checking the to and fro of the debate...that said to qualify as Black, you need one or more relative from Africa; given all our (i.e. all extant H. sapiens) mtDNA traces back to East Africa, we is all Black ;)
 
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Biscuits_AB

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#19
vampireuk said:
I'm a Yorkshireman, does that mean I don't belong in this country?
Nope, that means that you're a tight fisted, badly dressed, probably fat, miserable, smelly northern c*nt.
 
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Biscuits_AB

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#20
Bugsy said:
I know it's not really the subject of the thread, but does anybody know the BNP take on Micks? Are we "allowed" or not?

MsG
How can you be, when most of you don't want to be?
 

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