and now Kipling gets the Rhodes treatment.

#81
Students paint over classic Rudyard Kipling poem 'If' on campus wall
Kipling has been my favourite English poet since uni., when I picked up three volumes of his collected poems. If those house painters publish even one volume between them I will be most surprised.
 
#82
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Wonderful. Let's continue to re-write the bits of history that we don't like.

I'm going to go back and re-write the bit where the General Gordon is killed at Khartoum so that he survived and became prime minister...

[sarcasm mode OFF]
 
#83
[sarcasm mode ON]

Wonderful. Let's continue to re-write the bits of history that we don't like.

I'm going to go back and re-write the bit where the General Gordon is killed at Khartoum so that he survived and became prime minister...

[sarcasm mode OFF]
Everyone knows he survived Khartoum, and went on to become head honcho of the NRA.
 
#84
We have one as our MP, university, then straight into politics.
My current MP displaced a parachute job from another party. She's proved to be a bit shite in the main but at least she's from around here and at least has some grasp of what problems her constituents actually face and not what some metropolitan-elite city boy thinks his constituents should be concerned about in order to secure photo ops and positive headlines in the national media.
 
#86
My current MP displaced a parachute job from another party. She's proved to be a bit shite in the main but at least she's from around here and at least has some grasp of what problems her constituents actually face and not what some metropolitan-elite city boy thinks his constituents should be concerned about in order to secure photo ops and positive headlines in the national media.
I don't follow party lines on that. If the candidate is local it makes a huge difference to whether I will vote for them or not.
 

Joshua Slocum

LE
Book Reviewer
#87
It is occasions such as this that I am glad that my alma mater, Imperial College, took no truck with trendy Student Union ways. We had left the NSU, as we did not see eye to eye, the Young Tories out-numbered the Student Labour Party by a factor of plenty, and the dullards trying to sell copies of the Socialist Worker outside the Union buildings on a Wednesday afternoon were regularly set-about by the numerous College and School rugby teams waiting for transport to their matches.
My Father worked there for many years, one student he took a particular Dislike to is now the opposition party leader, its rare for my father to use stern words, but he did when he describes that little gnomish fellow
 

Joshua Slocum

LE
Book Reviewer
#88
[sarcasm mode ON]

Wonderful. Let's continue to re-write the bits of history that we don't like.

I'm going to go back and re-write the bit where the General Gordon is killed at Khartoum so that he survived and became prime minister...

[sarcasm mode OFF]
right if you can get away with that, I am re writing Australian history, I am sending all the criminals to Nigeria instead !!
 
#91
I don't follow party lines on that. If the candidate is local it makes a huge difference to whether I will vote for them or not.
Likewise. But I'm never going to be stupid enough to vote Labour - even if they had half a chance in this part of the country - so party and policies come into it, too.
 
#92
you can rewrite what you like. The 'rules' of history are just penal constructs by the WHITE patriarchal ndustrial military complex run by the crypto fascists.
 
#93
The Evening Standard have reported on it, and it looks like the Uni have folded like a melted kitkat.
A spokesman for Manchester Students Union told The Telegraph: "We understand that we made a mistake in our approach to a recent piece of artwork by failing to garner student opinion at the start of a new project. We accept that the result was inappropriate and for that we apologise"
Bunch of utter w@nkers.
 
#94
Is membership of the Students' Union still a mandatory requirement for graduation as it was in my day?
Who pays SU membership fees? Again, in my day, they were paid automatically by the government /local authority under the grant system.
Depends which university, several have disaffiliated from NUS because they felt that the NUS has stopped representing the everyday issues faced by normal students.
 
#95
Depends which university, several have disaffiliated from NUS because they felt that the NUS has stopped representing the everyday issues faced by normal students.
Who has first dibs on the safe space
 
#96
That poem in full.


If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!

Rudyard Kipling
1865–1936
 
#97
The Evening Standard have reported on it, and it looks like the Uni have folded like a melted kitkat.

Bunch of utter w@nkers.
Shame - I'd rather have seen 'We have reported an apparent case of Criminal Damage to the police' but I am not in the least bit surprised that yet again a respectable organisation caves in against nasty little racist (for that is what they are) thugs.

Edited to add - the original piece was put up by the Student Union which is independent of the university but everything else remains the same
 
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#98
Another try wot I wrote...
It's Kipling this and Kipling that,
Wascist screech the scrotes,
But saviour of the cake factory
With his yummy Kunzle Showboats.


Ah, my hansom cab...
 
#99
That poem in full.


If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!

Rudyard Kipling
1865–1936
Sentiment and wisdom in there that those who would rather he had never existed should reflect upon.
 

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