and now Kipling gets the Rhodes treatment.

I remember Dippy towing other wheelchair users about with his electric wheelchair. Didn't have much to do with him directly.

Incidentally, Cov Poly was very disabled friendly. We had a lad on our course (thalidomide type disabilities) who turned down a place at Oxford because we had wheelchair ramps and proper support for disabled students.
Quite an achievement for somewhere with so may sets of steps and built on so many levels.
 
I'm told our rugby club was escorted from Belgium and told not to return in the mid-80's.

One of the aforementioned decent spuds tried to talk me into going to a protest march in London. I declined pointing out that I believe it would inevitably be subverted by confrontational ********* (as it duly was, I think it might have been the one where the horse knocks the bird down).
Student societies. Dont you just love them. I joined the Railway Society. I'm not a trainspotter, but I was advised that they did travel a lot and might be worth a punt. The society's sole aim seemed to be to screw as much money out of the SU as possible on educational grounds. So a trip to see the railway facilities at Holyhead was actually a SU funded pissup in Dublin ("there's the tracks, did you bring your passport?"). And the trip to see the JCB factory in Staffordshire? "Those who want to see the JCB factory, it's on your right. Now that we've see that we're off to Alton Towers."
 
You really have not a clue do you, I could tell one of my men to do something in the "light hearted" banter way you speak of today and he may be fine with it however I could repeat the same thing tommorow and he could take a grievance out against me. Would I be in the wrong? of course because that is his right to feel that way tommorow.
You have said here that minor light hearted racism is acceptable so why the f**k have you spent the best part of 24 hours on and off on this thread you stupid retarded cnut. I think you should be smitted for for being an irritating f**k and there is not a hope that you are an army officer because you would have been weeded out before you even got near RMAS.
Just getting my slab and chisel - this should be permanently on display outside Queens at least. Personally I think you are far to lenient in your summation.
 
I remember Dippy towing other wheelchair users about with his electric wheelchair. Didn't have much to do with him directly.



Quite an achievement for somewhere with so may sets of steps and built on so many levels.
We were in B Block. Most of the buildings had lifts and severely disabled students had their own CSV (Community Service Volunteer) to look after them. The CSV got free accommodation in halls, free food and £30 to £40 a week pocket money. There was also a connecting tunnel between Prior and the SU building, making it easy for Dippy et al to get there in their wheelchairs.
 
Students paint over classic Rudyard Kipling poem 'If' on campus wall Manchester students paint over classic Kipling poem 'If' | Daily Mail Online children think Kipling is an old, white man, or something,o vandalise another's work. Though claiming that the student body/union weren't consulted in the choice of poem, no mention of how the new poem was selected is given.
prephas they've never tasted a Trifle Flavoured Bakewell Tart ?


that would change their opinion on Kipling...
 
Don't remember that one. We did have a vote to rename the Main Hall as the Jerry Hall Hall, which was passed, much to the fury of the resident snowflakes.

The Mezzanine Bar was renamed Dippys in memory of a mate of mine. Deepak "Dippy" Shah was a severely disabled student who was heavily involved in student union life and spent most of his time pissed and/or stoned. His body finally gave way in December 91.

Incidentally, Cov Poly was very disabled friendly. We had a lad on our course (thalidomide type disabilities) who turned down a place at Oxford because we had wheelchair ramps and proper support for disabled students. We were the first course to graduate from the new Coventry University, and perhaps fittingly he was the first graduate due to his surname being Adams.
I wont go there much as I would like to.
 
I do remember being invited to take part in the Poll Tax Riots in April 90 (?) by the head of our student union. He went knocking on each individual door in Priory Hall asking if we would take part. I politely declined on the basis that I was a Tory and didn't fancy getting a criminal record.
I was in Crowbourough camp June/July 90, this was a last minute change of destination for me. As it happens there was a large contingent of GG there that appeared to have no task but they were not allowed into Crowbourough or surronding areas. While never deployed I can only assume they were smiteing hammers for wannabe poll tax rioters. We sort of stirred the shit around the Crowbourough Cross and the Bricklayers Arms for best part of a month spreading lies and annoying locals while keeping them onside and enjoying thier hospitality.
 
Just getting my slab and chisel - this should be permanently on display outside Queens at least. Personally I think you are far to lenient in your summation.
TBH there is a good chance I could go into a spin like a whirling derbish and go off piste if I tried to be more thorough with my summation, said bye bye to the bell end as I was going to watch TV and then do grown up stuff with her indoors and found that he either has went commatose again or he is dead. The later being my choice RIP @widow11
 
April is the cruelest month.

Er, wait a minute, that wasn't him.

It was that filthy anti-semite!

I blame all the Fuzzy-Wuzzies.


I know what you're going to say. It's alright. I've heard it a million times before.

And it's Tommy this and Tommy that...

(tbf it's usually when I've tried to rob the offie the night before)
 
April is the cruelest month.

Er, wait a minute, that wasn't him.

It was that filthy anti-semite!

I blame all the Fuzzy-Wuzzies.


I know what you're going to say. It's alright. I've heard it a million times before.

And it's Tommy this and Tommy that...

(tbf it's usually when I've tried to rob the offie the night before)
Only seven lines?

We demand paragraphs...not lines!

Sort your shit out and give us our moneys worth.
 
It boggles my mind that the UK black community would be copying a style that went out of fashion in the US years ago..... I always gave Europeans credit for being trend setters, not followers of cast off American boyz in the hood image....
Err the trousers sans belt avec arse hanging out and boys in the hood look is still very much in fashion in the US of States.
 
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I haven’t once played the race card. It’s a thread specifically about these matters. You shouldn’t throw around phrases if you don’t even understand what they mean.

You appear to be intellectually incapable of keeping up. Don’t worry about it though. Chill brother.

Pretty sure it would be ‘claimed’ Officer rather than ‘alleged’

I believe you will find falsely accusing others of being racist to gain advantage, which is the basis of your argument, is playing the race card. Do get it right.
Makes me wonder if you are an (alleged) officer by ability or positive discrimination? Perhaps that's your problem; knowing you are where you are by other means than your personal skills(?)
Does anyone who questions your abilities get labelled racist?
 

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Point well missed but I suppose that was to be expected -

Treatment of somebody as inferior
Person later proves to be superior
Acknowledgement that supposed inferior is no such thing

That's my take on in
Therefore the Indian person isn't inferior nor portrayed as such -

Unfortunately I can see this going the same way as Huck finn - whereby the use of the N word is proof its racist and people want it banned or heavily censored. Unfortunately his moving away from using that word and putting aside his prejudice as his friendship develops is a rather central point - some what undermined if he refers to him as Afro American Gentleman throughout as some seem intent upon.

Im against this partly because the plot is lost to an extent but also because theres a danger of white washing of history.
I dont for example want to see black actors playing US officers or presidential aides in the 1950s or I charge of white troops in WW2 - simply because it wouldn't happen thanks to a racist law and to pretend other wise risks diminishing its impact

The above is different to characters being played by whoever is most suitable regardless of colour and in some cases Gender (although Charlies angels should always be female)

Before you go there I would rather 'natives' weren't played by blacked up white folk either - that it happened was wrong but wont be corrected by white facing black actors -or the current trend of championing black actors in perceived white roles whilst screaming racism or cultural appropriation when a white actor is cast in a perceived Asian role - For the vast majority of roles it shouldn't matter but for period / historical stuff then yes Major Chard has to be White, Shaka has to be black .

Its also in some cases (some not all) excusable/ understandable given the difficulty of finding an English speaking Arab actor etc.
For the same reasons and the fact its made for a home audience it wouldn't bother me in the slightest to find an African or Indian or Japanese film that used its own race actors to portray white people -

Meanwhile Disney uses the word Cracker in kids movies - a racial epithet aimed at low class white people but isn't racist because White people are the majority in power and so black Americans cannot be racist and only prejudiced**


**Not my words this is the genuine response to the question why is cracker acceptable - I do hope you can see it for the bullshit it is
Most tourist spots in Florida will proudly tell you of the nick name ""Cracker" applied to Floridian cowboys, still widely in use today to describe folk from Florida.
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Most tourist spots in Florida will proudly tell you of the nick name ""Cracker" applied to Floridian cowboys, still widely in use today to describe folk from Florida.
Ah well that just means its Like N***** then only WE can say it as its empowering


More sensibly I would argue its an example of its current usage rather than original usage that should make it unacceptable.

After all the N word was simply a colour descriptor until it was used as a racial slur
 

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Ah well that just means its Like N***** then only WE can say it as its empowering


More sensibly I would argue its an example of its current usage rather than original usage that should make it unacceptable.

After all the N word was simply a colour descriptor until it was used as a racial slur
But frm my experience Cracker does appear to still be used in it's original usage by those to whom it applied.

It is considered a source of pride to be descended from "frontier people who did not just live but flourished in a time before air conditioning, mosquito repellent, and screens." 2018 Cracker Storytelling Festival Information

it would appear to be out of state that it has your poor Southerner references
 

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My daughter went back to uni in later life to take her teaching degree ( all funded by her hard work) she was indoctrinated with some sort of blame the whiteys for everything culture
it seemed the senior people there inflicted their narrow minded beliefs on everybody
I gave up trying to argue ( my family is mixed race)
I have also worked in a Uni and found some of the senior teaching staff taxing and hard to deal with, they gain immense power and strut around like rock stars and expect every body to cow-to to them and think that mere working men like myself have no knowledge or skill, I had to tell one to FRO when he decided to critisice my workmanship
he didnt like that, especially when I gave him a core drill and said see you later
 
The students who decided to do this must be feeling really pleased with themselves with the amount of coverage it’s got them.They can slowly fade back into obscurity I’m sure Kiplings words won’t.
Kipling has been around for 150 years and will still be quoted in another 100. I had to google Maya Angelou and whilst she does seem to have a large body of work, it does not appear to appeal to a broad audience and therefore I doubt if all but a few will even know who she was in 100 years time.
As for the students, they will hopefully grow up in due course and be a benefit to society in the future!
 
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