And it just gets better for Labour...Lamount is off

She openly admitted the Scottish Labour Party is just viewed as a branch office. As are the Scottish versions of the Conservatives and Lib Dems to be fair.

People are starting to "get it" now.
 

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It was all over media that she was going during the Party Conference but held on.

they must have realised she doesn't quite match up to Ruth or Nicola!
 

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Are we going to have clips of Brian Blessed calling out "Gordon's alive!" as Broonie moves in to take over Holyrood?

With Salmond making coy statements about him returning to Westminster Scottish politics is, at last, becoming quite interesting.

Lamont has always been a political lightweight and Salmond has always run rings round her in Holyrood, but really there is no-one with the right qualities to take over from her IMHO. Labour has always treated Scotland as a fringe 'joke' just put there to keep the natives calm. They will desperately be looking for an 'Uncle Tom' type person yet again but Labour are in meltdown in Scotland.
 
That depends if Broon is still an MP after the next elections isn't one of the local rags keeping a tally of his appearances as an MP at the HoC. Cant see Murphy or weasle Alexander taking the gig they were approached before about it and knocked it back IIRC plus again that depends if weasle still has a job after next May as there is already a campaign underway in Paisley to vote him out as he's never here the jumped up little shite.
 

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I think there will be quite a few, mostly Labour, politicians looking for a job following the general election next year.

As I said, Scottish politics is quite interesting at the moment. SNP lost the referendum..........or did they? I wonder if Salmond now regrets standing down so quickly.
 
Whatever your politics, "Scottish" Labour or Conservatives don't have the best interests of Scottish people at heart. Whatever their current policies are, they have to align with what's going on south of the border.
 
Whatever your politics, "Scottish" Labour or Conservatives don't have the best interests of Scottish people at heart. Whatever their current policies are, they have to align with what's going on south of the border.
That's because we are one Country mate, the Nats lost the referendum.
 

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That's because we are one Country mate, the Nats lost the referendum.
Did they? Really? Or was it just a case of: lose the battle but win the war?
 
Oh, no, just when you thought it was safe to go in the water again, up pops the neverendum shark.
 

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Oh, no, just when you thought it was safe to go in the water again, up pops the neverendum shark.
Not at all, it's just Scottish Politics.

Unfortunately Scottish Politics has recently been dominated by the Referendum and now we have the Smith Commission sitting. Once all that is over, obviously we'll have its recommendations and then we'll just have to wait to see if they're delivered.

If not then, it's possibly referendum time again. Except this time Westminster leaders won't be to make vows when pols show a Yes lead with days to go as nobody will believe them.
 
She openly admitted the Scottish Labour Party is just viewed as a branch office. As are the Scottish versions of the Conservatives and Lib Dems to be fair.

People are starting to "get it" now.
It doesn't matter who runs the colonies. It's Westminster that matters.
 
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Did they? Really? Or was it just a case of: lose the battle but win the war?
Er yes they did as the majority voted to remain in the Union. That sad whining old gits maintain their 300 year campaign for turning back the clock shows how much they misunderstand their own people.

The people said NO, live with it.
 

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Er yes they did as the majority voted to remain in the Union. That sad whining old gits maintain their 300 year campaign for turning back the clock shows how much they misunderstand their own people.

The people said NO, live with it.
And who is more comfortable with that? Holyrood or Westminster?

I'll give you a clue, it has six times the number of snouts in the trough.

I, and most people are happy and capable of living with that, indeed we do so day by day. However, it seems that some people think that the question raised on the ballot paper was a definitive 'status quo' whereas many who voted No would be, and will continue to be, happy to vote SNP and strive for devo-max.

Certainly the political party that has grasped the result and are using it more effectively are the SNP.
 

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Did they? Really? Or was it just a case of: lose the battle but win the war?
I have too agree, the Scots appear to have the best of both worlds, the security of been part of the Union plus a very powerful Scottish Parliament which is now getting more powers and money than ever before, they can't go wrong. Can they?
 

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I have too agree, the Scots appear to have the best of both worlds, the security of been part of the Union plus a very powerful Scottish Parliament which is now getting more powers and money than ever before, they can't go wrong. Can they?
Well, it can go pretty wrong if the issue of parliamentary reform in Holyrood is not addressed.

There's no revising chamber like the Lords, so no ability to amend/throw out crap legislation. Also, the beefed up committee system that was meant to compensate from the lack of an upper chamber doesn't work in practice with majority governments and allow parliament to properly scrutinise legislation and hold the government of the day to account in any meaningful way.

So, what we have in Scotland is an unfair balance of the executive over the legislative - all the parties in Holyrood know this and the SNP could have addressed it in the WP - they chose not to do so.


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So, what we have in Scotland is an unfair balance of the executive over the legislative - all the parties in Holyrood know this and the SNP could have addressed it in the WP - they chose not to do so.
Left wing politics likes that arrangement, the spat between labour and the snp is just internal squabbling in the leftysphere.
 

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