And in Abu Ghraib this week, the saga continues...

#1
The Washington Post has managed to get hold of more pictures of EPWs being abused by the hillbillies at Abu Ghraib.

What in the name of Christ did they think these strokers think they were doing? Deeply, deeply disturbed at the thought of ever having to work with an army capable of producing men and women happy to conduct this level of systematic abuse.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/
 
#2
oh believe me mate , theres plenty of em out there , if you aint an all white , sh*t kicking goddam all american (redneck)
then you're below contempt mate , and that includes us .
 
#3
Their problem is arrogance. In the belief that their values are total and better than ours. In fact they are worse than the Communists they dispised. :evil:
 
#5
What gets me is that now the Spams are falling over themselves releasing 100's of Iraqis. This brings up a few questions as to:

1) If they can be released en mass are they deemed to be no threat, if so what the F**k were they doing locked up in the first place? Is this a version of the Spam act first think (if at all) much, much later?

2) If they are a threat then what the F**k are they being released for? Is that another version of act first (this case to appease critics) think about it much much later?

Methinks this is far fro being over yet :(
 
#6
Fuchs66 said:
What gets me is that now the Spams are falling over themselves releasing 100's of Iraqis. This brings up a few questions as to:

1) If they can be released en mass are they deemed to be no threat, if so what the F**k were they doing locked up in the first place? Is this a version of the Spam act first think (if at all) much, much later?

2) If they are a threat then what the F**k are they being released for? Is that another version of act first (this case to appease critics) think about it much much later?

Methinks this is far fro being over yet :(
You may recently have been promoted.... but you are still thinking way above your pay scale.... stop it! :D
 
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Fuchs66 said:
Is this a version of the Spam act first think (if at all) much, much later?
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I think it's called the First Amendment or something!! :roll:
 

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#9
Have just seen the inbreds mocking the Iraqi in the body bag. Courtmartial seems to good for them. When will we see a 4 star General go down the tubes?

Just about as low as they can go I think. No wonder the Iraqis are confused how a regime can change from one that tortured and killed to another which tortures and kills.

Thank you America- makes us proud! :roll:
 
#11
From the top:- I confess I am not in the military (hence uninformed), nor, you will be glad to hear, am I journalist. But I was wondering, whilst the photos and goings on against the iraqi prisoners is wrong, and blowing up wedding parties is wrong. What happens in a British military interrogation?

I've heard lots of conversation by people who don't actually know, so without asking for anything classified I thought I would ask you guys. I assume it is not the methods used by our US allies. But then to think is it polite questions over tea and biscuits seems hopelessly naive. What happens?

Also in the interests of 360 information what happens to captured squaddies?

I quite understand if no one wants to answer this, but I would rather have some information not filtered through some "boost circulation and bugger the consequences" journalist.

Thanks
 
#12
IM not sure what we do, but if you're after information what happens on British personnel when they are captured, can i refer you to a book called Tornado Down, about two of our aircrew captured during Gulf 1.
 
#13
I confess I am not in the military (hence uninformed), nor, you will be glad to hear, am I journalist.
aardv,

To gain such privileged information, first you have to pass this simple test and prove you are not a journo:

Were you to come across a Granny who had just been mugged in your home town, would you:

a. Rush to her assistance, administer first aid and call the authorities.

b. Reach for your camera and snap some cheap shots for your red-top before moving off quickly.

c. Immediately unfurl and drape her in the Ba'athist flag you've been keeping in your top left for just such a moment, spray her with fake tan before nipping off to the nearest phone box to don your 'Army gear', returning to get a piccie of yourself (in 'SAS-style' mask, of course) with boot (laced a la TA/civvy) on the back of her neck.
 
#14
Damn you for asking the tricky questions! But wait..... you have inadvertently revealed our interrogation techniques! Now where is my pen.....


Seriously, not a journo. I teach IT...some would argue this makes me an even lower life form :)
 
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shortfuse said:
oh believe me mate , theres plenty of em out there , if you aint (that type raise yo hand) an all white , sh*t kicking goddam all american (redneck)
then you're below contempt mate , and that includes us .
 
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dui-lai said:
Their problem is arrogance. In the belief that their values are total and better than ours. In fact they are worse than the Communists they dispised. :evil:
Quite the contrary, they are better as in more virulent strain of the original bug. :!:
 
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QMan9193 said:
Have just seen the inbreds mocking the Iraqi in the body bag. Courtmartial seems to good for them. When will we see a 4 star General go down the tubes?
Just about as low as they can go I think. No wonder the Iraqis are confused how a regime can change from one that tortured and killed to another which tortures and kills.
Thank you America- makes us proud! :roll:
The American people en mass, including yours truly, are culturally responsible for the whole mess. I believe in karma or something akin to it (I know it sounds like a conspiracy theory to you though that is what noon tea sounds like to me :lol: ) and America is building up a lot of bad karma which some would say will eventually manifest in blowback. The question is, geographically speaking, will the blowback intensity conform to the disipation of energy as the inverse square of the radius from the proximate Iraqi event. Spain and others are now data points . . .
 
#18
GQ,

Why don't you hold fire for a while matey :? People, myself included, are getting mightly pissed off at you and the crape your spouting.

Now I am all for free speech but you are ruining this site for all by your rants. Why not toe the line and occasionally spout your crap :?:

I take it the meatheads at Military.com gave you the old heave hoe?
 
#19
aardvark said:
From the top:- I confess I am not in the military (hence uninformed), nor, you will be glad to hear, am I journalist. But I was wondering, whilst the photos and goings on against the iraqi prisoners is wrong, and blowing up wedding parties is wrong. What happens in a British military interrogation?

I've heard lots of conversation by people who don't actually know, so without asking for anything classified I thought I would ask you guys. I assume it is not the methods used by our US allies. But then to think is it polite questions over tea and biscuits seems hopelessly naive. What happens?

Also in the interests of 360 information what happens to captured squaddies?

I quite understand if no one wants to answer this, but I would rather have some information not filtered through some "boost circulation and bugger the consequences" journalist.

Thanks
It's no secret as it can be read in several books off the shelf at your local book shop.

Disorientation, sleep deprivation, stress positions, physical abuse, humiliation and even close encounters with very vicious dogs are all techniques used to control and aid the interigation of captured troops..... our own troops on exercise and in training.

It's done so that soldiers in 'high risk of capture' jobs get to experience the effects of getting captured are prepared, giving them all the incentive they need not to get caught. It also gives the interigators experience in handling live subjects which is also very valuable experience.

It is of course done with a hell of a lot more finese than the american amatures in Iraq were using. But it has to be said again. The Iraqi's were doing a lot worse to their own and if the tables were turned the captives would be lucky to have got away so lightly if not with their lives.

Everything has to be put in perspective.
 
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#20
dui-lai said:
GQ,
I take it the meatheads at Military.com gave you the old heave hoe?
Rodger, who would have guessed eh? Go to proximately pgs 15~21 of p/cp to see some of my rants.

Concerning this topic you all are talking about US yanks. So you really don't want to hear what some of US jerk offs over on this side of the fish tank are thinking about? No? Alot of the stuff I talk about (I am more or less clueless about your side of the tank - that is why I am here) and the sentiments particularly are not uncommon here despite our failure nationally to grasp irony and other more subtle forms of humor.

Why don't you all lighten up instead of lighting up my arrse on topics I actually know something about? 8)
Check that, I have never tortured anybody - except maybe you all. :twisted:
 

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