An upgraded HMS Illustrious begins sea trials

#3
what was the point of keeping the ski ramp? no use to a helicopter ship and would have released valuable landing area for choppers.

I remember Lusty being commissioned, my old fella was CPMEO on her from sea trials to 1986 when he moved to Roebuck.

Fabulous ship.
 
#5
See as the ramp is still there, could she be used for stol aircraft again if we had any or, if someone else lent us some?
 
#8
I believe so, yes.
Thanks for that. We retain some ability to project a small amount of airpower then even if we don't possess any fixed wing aircraft that can fly off it.

Planning eh! Still at least we do have the helicopters and the Royal Marines which of course is it's designated job now.
 
#10
Excellent next weeks news, newly revamped HMS Illustrious goes on sale. MOD say it is the bargain of the century and we will even throw in a couple of harriers to get you started.
 
#11
I read somewhere that the only reason the ramp is still there I'd because it would cost mire to takeoff than keep on.
 
#12
I read somewhere that the only reason the ramp is still there I'd because it would cost mire to takeoff than keep on.
i remain astonished that there is, in the 130,000-odd people in the Armed Forces, not one cnut with a GCSE in Metalwork.

it is a metal structure welded onto another metal structure. it contains nothing complicated or fragile, its just steel.

is it really something that twenty REME/RE blokes with oxy-acetaline torches and a fcuk off big crane couldn't remove in a few days?
 
#13
So the Spanish AV8B and the yanks can come onboard with their Harriers and rub our noses in it!!
And the Thais and the Indians and the Russians and every other 3rd rate naval power that can somehow still send fixed wing to sea while the most senior navy in the world can't. FFS, even the Argentinians have a Fleet Air Arm that still practices deck landings on passing American carriers.
 
#14
The contract with BAE Systems to wreck...sorry, overhaul, the ship was change to retain the ramp and recoat the high friction deck with a view to slipping the Harrier back in.

Then the MoD found out that the Harrier PDS staff had all been made redundant and been hired by Lockheed Martin to sort out the F35 debacle.

Usual MoD/Government assuming that industry will keep on staff on the off chance.
 
#16
what was the point of keeping the ski ramp? no use to a helicopter ship and would have released valuable landing area for choppers.
It's all part of a cunning plan for the UK to make a bid for the next Winter Olympics. What we lack in snow and mountains we will make up for in offshore skiing events based around decommissioned naval vessels. Not only will it provide job opportunities for the 100,000 service personnel that will have been made redundant by then, it will also be a wonderful opportunity to make further use of the 'Volunteer Army' that has already been recruited for the summer version. Not forgetting the huge potential to create another wave of mass disppointment among the general public by repeating this year's total ticketing fiasco. Surely a 'win win' in anyone's book?
 
#17
And the Thais and the Indians and the Russians and every other 3rd rate naval power that can somehow still send fixed wing to sea while the most senior navy in the world can't. FFS, even the Argentinians have a Fleet Air Arm that still practices deck landings on passing American carriers.
Thats right, even the Argentinians managed to field a carrier in 1982, only because we sold it to them. And then to add insult to injury the French sold the them the aircraft!! Honestly.......take one's head for a shit......

She didn't type that.......the military historian did...........
 
#18
Thats right, even the Argentinians managed to field a carrier in 1982, only because we sold it to them. And then to add insult to injury the French sold the them the aircraft!! Honestly.......take one's head for a shit......

She didn't type that.......the military historian did...........
I seriously did not write that, my head is painted on, and why have a dog and bark yourself.

Exocet were sold to Argentina by France in 1981.

Two Frigates were sold to Argentina in 1980 by Britain.

The General Belgrano managed to survive Pearl Harbour (as the USS Phoenix) but didn't manage to survive as HMS Conqueror (sp).
 
#20
i remain astonished that there is, in the 130,000-odd people in the Armed Forces, not one cnut with a GCSE in Metalwork.
was speaking to my teacher about how many people actually get the GCSE every year in matalwork, he said only about a thousand or 2
 

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