An odd occurrence this week

[Danny_Dravot]

Scary stuff.
Year 2000,, International Euro TKD competition in Stirlingshire. Our lad was Red Belt black tip at 12 years of age.
We could see, as others noted, the Greek Cypriot team had blagged a few of their Black Belts and issued them the same belts. Indeed the Russian team boss smelled a rat had a word with the organisers. They could tell by the warm up techniques and other triggers.
Anyhow, said son went in full pelt as usual and did pretty well against one of them. By this time he was a multiple gold medalist. It seemed to catch the BB out for a couple of rounds until the Greek decided enough was enough and systematically got stuck in, resulting in axe kicks galore and shin attacks that despite guards left his legs swollen & bleeding.
A couple of contacts lifted our lad into the air. The Greek was good...very very good.
Then all Hell let loose, son ditched TKD and hooked the fecker, then belted the living play-ground shit out of him. Instant disqualification to the cacohony of a few hundred onlookers. 2 Russian judges had to pull him off the Greek.
His Master remarked it had nothing to do with TKD, but was the best street fight he'd ever seen. He seemed amused. The Greek got son's medal as well.
Next day ( a Monday) he could barely walk never mind get out of bed. Down to Surgery, full physical, and Mum & I got put through the mill about how it had all happened. Very uncomfortable indeed, despite son telling them the story. It began to look dodgy.
As it happened, Mum had recorded the entire episode on a Sony camcorder, which was clearly dated and was in the glove compartment in our car still.
End of issue once locum GP & nurse watched it.
We had left the competition early, but were told The Greek got laid out later by the Club's top contender.
We sometimes watch that video with a little bemusement....our son finds it hilarious...but then he would.
Went on to be an Army mixed martialist with pretty decent record card. Nutter.....in a quiet introverted way.

same, but with brevity.

I was treated like a scummer when I took one of the kids to A&E with a suspected broken arm from a rugby match on a wed afternoon. I think it was doing rugby at school is what threw them.

 

[Ecosse]

same, but with brevity.

I was treated like a scummer when I took one of the kids to A&E with a suspected broken arm form a rugby match on a wed afternoon. I think it was school & sports that threw them.

Nasty feeling eh?

 

[ches]

Its a shit situ to be in but its understandable due to the huge emphasis on safeguarding, TBH i suppose its right. For something to be missed & another Baby P/Climbie to occur can't be on in this day & age.

Safeguarding comes into play with lots of potential fcuk ups. My lass has had to retire but when a teacher we would hear through the grapevine of the DV stuff with poor kids getting batterings or getting between parents. The school staff are then expected to act on the info - albeit very scant. If they don't & something comes up in an investigation then they're going to be in the shit. Massive impact on career.

 

[SkippedOnce]

Shouldn't you be a bit more worried about your other half's medical condition, and a bit less about your own reputation as a wife beater?

 

[Ecosse]

Its a shit situ to be in but its understandable due to the huge emphasis on safeguarding, TBH i suppose its right. For something to be missed & another Baby P/Climbie to occur can't be on in this day & age.

Safeguarding comes into play with lots of potential fcuk ups. My lass has had to retire but when a teacher we would hear through the grapevine of the DV stuff with poor kids getting batterings or getting between parents. The school staff are then expected to act on the info - albeit very scant. If they don't & something comes up in an investigation then they're going to be in the shit. Massive impact on career.

Wife was Primary Teacher for 42 years, same school. Not a great area.
Pretty much was on her 3rd gen when she retired..so knew the local mutant breeders well. Probably, she was the cause of a good dozen kids being "rescued", but far more slipped through the system.
The matrix of different departments & those supposed to be involved, plus Social Services box ticking was appalling.

 

[mush_dad]

The matrix of different departments & those supposed to be involved, plus Social Services box ticking was appalling.

Following the Climbie case and others most Local Authorities have set up a Childrens Integrated Services unit which includes Health, Education, Law Enforcement and Social Services reps in the mix to make it effectively a one-stop-shop. However as with everything that's run by Local Government, performance is patchy. Occasionally I've seen CIS units where it's all too often about policy (let's make the world a better place for children - abolish poverty today!), and incessant virtue signalling, and the different organisations eyeing each other suspiciously, rather than hard nosed, effective action on the ground. As always leadership is everything and a CIS lead by a political staffer rather than someone with experience of the issues will always perform poorly IMHO

 

[ExREME.TECH]

Have dealt with more than one DV incident where the woman turned on us as we arrested her abuser. Nothing says "thanks" like a few kicks, scratches and a constant stream of abuse.

You arrested many women for DV?
My mate phoned the police a few times and no one turned up

 

[ExREME.TECH]

Yes it's called "Claires Law" or the Domestic Violence Disclosure Scheme. I'm guessing men can check up on women too as it just says "partner".

Domestic Violence Disclosure Scheme factsheet

www.gov.uk

Many women on there?

 

[buggrit]

Many women on there?

No idea. I know my ex wont be. Her family got her an expensive lawyer and she was always sweetness and light when others were about. She was just a sociopath when there were no witnesses.

 

[Old Stab]

I went to hospital years ago aged about 8. Playing football and because I've got Banana feet and can't kick a ball straight I was in goals.
Shot comes in, I'm Peter Shilton...... I dive... Straight into the post and put my teeth through my lip.

One trip to A&E.. Dad got asked what happened, Dad happened to play goalkeeper for his Regiment. He replied something along the lines of "He tried to stop them scoring with his face, he hasn't got any brains... Or good looks anymore"

It did help that I was wearing muddy blood splattered football kit at the time though.

 

[Kroneit44]

After Missus (far more popular than me) was seen out sporting a black eye people came looking for me. Fortunately for me I was a four hour flight away on sport.

More recently number one child was picking about and somehow cut the back of his head open whilst cleaning their teeth. There was a lot of claret so we called an ambulance. As it was a minor the local bill turned up as well. They (medics and bill) insisted on a run through of the incident separately. I can't describe it but there were obvious techniques present to see if I had been the cause. Anyhoo they went away content.

 

[Old Stab]

I had an "Incident" with SWMBO last year. Messing about and she threw a towel at me, I responded by flicking a flat cap at her like a Frisbee.

End result was a very very black eye.. She's a senior nurse, questions were asked when she went to work. Luckily her boss and her colleagues know both of us and know I wouldn't lay a finger on her.

Her boss even said that the flat cap story was so bloody ridiculous it had to be true. But still, there were questions asked of her about DV and if I had clocked her.

 

[supermatelot]

Similar setups are in place with banks etc. The 'banking protocol'. If say you escort your 88 year old aunt to the bank and-the cashier deems the attempted transaction out of character, or feel that she may be being influenced / coerced by you, a system is in place for them to to contact police.

Various pharmacies are also getting in on the reporting DV thing also if someone presents and states they are a victim of DV or- if the pharmacy staff suspect it.

 

[Old Stab]

Similar setups are in place with banks etc. The 'banking protocol'. If say you escort your 88 year old aunt to the bank and-the cashier deems the attempted transaction out of character, or feel that she may be being influenced / coerced by you, a system is in place for them to to contact police.

Various pharmacies are also getting in on the reporting DV thing also if someone presents and states they are a victim of DV or- if the pharmacy staff suspect it.

Ask for Angela or Anne IIRC.

 

[supermatelot]

Ask for Angela or Anne IIRC.

"Ani"

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/940379/Training_information_-_Ask_for_ANI.pdf

 

[enpointe]

Is this real?

In the name of equality, I assume that men can check if their new beaus are gold-digging, mental, slappers too?

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/575361/DVDS_guidance_FINAL_v3.pdf

i believe this is the information you could have found if you had used one of the many search engines to search for 'domestic violence disclosure uk'

 

[Saturation]

Shouldn't you be a bit more worried about your other half's medical condition, and a bit less about your own reputation as a wife beater?

In the posts that I have made on this thread never once have I said that I was not concerned over her health, nor have I stated that I was concerned over my reputation as a wife-beater.
The reason I started this thread was to state how the medics were pushing her to state that she was a victim of DV, once they had separated us and that includes the hospital nurse attempting to demonstrate to the doctor in relation to the bruising on how it may have occurred.
When she told me what had transpired, she said that she was very surprised and a little shocked at being asked those questions and so was I initially, but when I thought about it decided that it was very probably standard procedure for them to ask if there was no obvious explanation for an injury.
Due to the fact that I started this thread in the NAAFI, I expected some form of a reply such as yours, there have been a number of other more sensible replies on this matter.
Have a good day.

 

[enpointe]

Ask for Angela or Anne IIRC.

Ask For Angela was the scheme in which licenced premises (bars, restaurants. venues) were encouraged to have a protocol in place to deal with situations where someone felt that a date or other meeting was going wrong

 

[supermatelot]

Ask For Angela was the scheme in which licenced premises (bars, restaurants. venues) were encouraged to have a protocol in place to deal with situations where someone felt that a date or other meeting was going wrong

If a woman tried that in Plymouth-she'd probably have 3 barmaids aggressively approach her thinking the woman at the bar was some psycho ex of one of their mates called Angelas' new squeezes!

 

[miner69er]

oooh you guys are in the realms of safeguarding and sister works at a womens and childrens hospital. Safeguarding team has trebled in size over the last 10 years with the amount of mongery being bred. Some of the stories are beyond beleif. She had a stand up toe to toe with one of our BAME tribe because sis has to ask the mum to be by herself are you being abused. Mum in law wantyed in on the conversation and tried ot pull the race card - not atypical. Upside is she is in a forced marriage and will soon be in process of popping out her cousins (husband) baby. That will put a strain on NHS (if the kid makes it) so the kid can look forward to a life of being potentially phuysically and mentally disabled, just so the money stays in the family.
Lots of other fun stories but it does make you think how has society got this bad?