An Interesting Few Days in N.I, just as well we have spare forces to committ

#1
Since Friday the police have recovered a quantity or arms (inc LBW & SBW) in Keady, had 2 finds of BME in South Armagh (apparently new as opposed to stuff that Slab or SGH may have left buried in a field) and also conducted an arrest op in relation to the murder of Con Kerr.

Lets hope the police keep the pressure up on these half wits, before anyone gets hurts.

Lets face it with current commitments and future cuts our leadership is more inclined to inject UK forces in to another middle east sandy place as opposed to our own back yard.
 
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#3
I never understood the IRA and UDV; 'We've just put a pipe bomb in a primary school and blown up Omagh! Join our cause!'
I've never understood the UDV either, mainly because I've never heard of 'em... think you might mean UDA? :winkrazz:

They're all mentally unstable murdering twunts. Trying to understand them is futile.
 
#4
There was an interview with an 18 year old (although he sounded about 40) Londonderry member of the 32 Counties Sovereignty Committee on Broadcasting House this morning. Depressing in that he didn't really seem to have any real reason for supporting murder other than because that's what people like him did. His justifications all seemed circular and when he was banging on about self-determination for the whole of Ireland I couldn't help but think that if there was an all-Ireland plebiscite in which the status-quo won (much less one in NI or even the whole of Ulster) he wouldn't be happy.
 
#5
When a govt like the Blair one gives in to terrorism what can you expect. They never handed their weapons over , they had all of their prime terror bomb expertise released from Gaol who knows what they will do next. I hope that the Cameroon Govt is not so soft or obliging.
 
#6
I've never understood the UDV either, mainly because I've never heard of 'em... think you might mean UDA? :winkrazz:

They're all mentally unstable murdering twunts. Trying to understand them is futile.
Bugger, they're the ones :p

They don't seem to get that a lot of Ireland doesn't care any more; people just want peaceful, nice lives. Not car bombs and some relics from the Troubles thrashing about realising they're obselete.
 
#8
I've always thought we spent way too much money on Woomera, Lisburn was much more deserving, kind of central.
 
#9
I've always thought we spent way too much money on Woomera, Lisburn was much more deserving, kind of central.
I take it your the one the U.D.R.refused to scrape of the streets on Friday/Saturday nights and smuggle back into camp after hours?They did have standards,not high admittedly,but high enough.
 
#10
I take it your the one the U.D.R.refused to scrape of the streets on Friday/Saturday nights and smuggle back into camp after hours?They did have standards,not high admittedly,but high enough.
Awfully defensive there county, get a sense of humour.
 
#12
Since Friday the police have recovered a quantity or arms (inc LBW & SBW) in Keady, had 2 finds of BME in South Armagh (apparently new as opposed to stuff that Slab or SGH may have left buried in a field) and also conducted an arrest op in relation to the murder of Con Kerr.

Lets hope the police keep the pressure up on these half wits, before anyone gets hurts.



Lets face it with current commitments and future cuts our leadership is more inclined to inject UK forces in to another middle east sandy place as opposed to our own back yard.
I think the peelers and MI5 in particular have known about these hides for a while, but are now only starting to share intel or have taken the hides out of circulation to shore up confidence within the communities.

I hnestly think this year will be a severe test for the peace, with the queens visit coming up, the marching season approaching and the RIR/IG homecoming parades. Plus the fact seasoned scumbags like Bik McFarlane and Declan Arthurs have taken their expertise into the anti-peace camp, I think there will be a few testing times to come.
 
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skid2

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#15
I think the peelers and MI5 in particular have known about these hides for a while, but are now only starting to share intel or have taken the hides out of circulation to shore up confidence within the communities.

I hnestly think this year will be a severe test for the peace, with the queens visit coming up, the marching season approaching and the RIR/IG homecoming parades. Plus the fact seasoned scumbags like Bik McFarlane and Declan Arthurs have taken their expertise into the anti-peace camp, I think there will be a few testing times to come.

Good to see the return of well known old timers. They at least know what to look forward to when they get arrested and what prison smells like. That's what we need more republican 'war' memorials. The tourists have seen the old tat about peace and freedom what they need to hear are stirring songs about brave volunteers getting ambushed, dumped in ditches and stuffed down sewers. And that little blues number about the evening the mortar went wrong. The Arthurs family have a wealth of experience in rehab and physio. They should be applauded for their endeavours in not overburdening the NHS. I can just see it now when the smoking ford tears up to Letterkenny hospital. A gunshot wound We don't have any money to treat gunshot wounds. Ah Northern banknotes. Thank you.
 
#16
I was on a Republican forum about an hour ago and it seems the whole of the East Tyrone Brigade left the Provo's within the last year. All thats left are those in Sinn Fein. Even the Tyrone National Graves Association have told Sinn Fein to **** off, there under orders not to leave any wreaths on any Republican graves.
 
#17
My ill-educated view on things is that the "IRA" today is made up of:

- Old timers who have done nothing with their lives and long for the old days when they felt important
- Young men who lack direction and are probably unemployed, looking for a common enemy to fight (as per human nature)
 
#18
I was on a Republican forum about an hour ago and it seems the whole of the East Tyrone Brigade left the Provo's within the last year. All thats left are those in Sinn Fein. Even the Tyrone National Graves Association have told Sinn Fein to **** off, there under orders not to leave any wreaths on any Republican graves.
dunno - certainly there have been splits within the provisional movement, but by far the majority of the incidents seen in the last 3 years have come from outside the provisional movement (as in, from people or groups who are, or were, part of the RSF/CIRA and 32CSM/RIRA movement. the RSF people left the PM in the mid and late 80's, the 32CSM people left in the late 90's).

the various 'IRA's currently active are all splits from CIRA and RIRA, not PIRA - there are about ten of them, some 30 people, some two men and a dog. it is alleged that some ex-PIRA people are doing a 'freelance' job, opperating under this or that flag of convenience according to whichever more established group owned the weapons they used to do each individual job - however this completey ignores two big fat realities: no one trusts anyone within armed republicanism - the idea that either experienced ex-PIRA people would approach CIRA/RIRA (organisations more penetrated than PIRA) people, or that CIRA/RIRA groups would touch ex-PIRA who came knocking with a bargepole is ridiculous - and secondly, it ignores the ideologies that created and sustain the two different strands.
 
#19
dunno - certainly there have been splits within the provisional movement, but by far the majority of the incidents seen in the last 3 years have come from outside the provisional movement (as in, from people or groups who are, or were, part of the RSF/CIRA and 32CSM/RIRA movement. the RSF people left the PM in the mid and late 80's, the 32CSM people left in the late 90's).

the various 'IRA's currently active are all splits from CIRA and RIRA, not PIRA - there are about ten of them, some 30 people, some two men and a dog. it is alleged that some ex-PIRA people are doing a 'freelance' job, opperating under this or that flag of convenience according to whichever more established group owned the weapons they used to do each individual job - however this completey ignores two big fat realities: no one trusts anyone within armed republicanism - the idea that either experienced ex-PIRA people would approach CIRA/RIRA (organisations more penetrated than PIRA) people, or that CIRA/RIRA groups would touch ex-PIRA who came knocking with a bargepole is ridiculous - and secondly, it ignores the ideologies that created and sustain the two different strands.
And were does ONH come into the equation, they are off couurse all the ex-provo's who were at the start providing logistics and training for the dissidents, now they're doing the brunt of the work.
 

mercurydancer

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#20
Is it a co-incidence that after PC Kerr was killed, the arms dumps got "revealed" ? Has someone grassed up the militants? Someone with the knowledge of where the dumps are?
 

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