An independent Scotland

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So - is he mad, slightly out of lane or speaking for the nation...........you decide??

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#3
This from the clown who championed the Irish and Icelandic economy? It's all pish as far as I'm concerned the biggest thing Scotland exports is Scots are we all expected to return to vote or do you have to still be there to have your say?
 
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I think if they do gain independence, they may regret it afterwards. The MOD alone, with Faslane, RAF Stations and the Army employs tens of thousands of people, not to mention the money poured into the local econamy, where would the Nuclear Warheads and Subs go? I don't think it's as simple as he makes out.
The grass is rarely greener on the other side so to speak!
 

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#7
The silly twat is on a personal power kick. As is often the case and certainly true of the UK: The whole is greater than the sum of its parts.
 
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Anyone have Salmond in the Dead Pool? Because I reckon there's a decent chance he may commit suicide/die in a car accident quite soon...:twisted:

As for an independent Scotland: it's a ****ing stupid idea.
 
#11
So this indipendance stuff that comes around every few weeks has anyone bothered to think it through, as the UK has a population over over 65 million and has the wealth and power that come with that population in the modern world however the population isn't split equally between the nations of the UK so if they were all to become indipendant again it would put england on top like the history as having the most wealth and power while scotland with what 6 million people would struggle on a national and international stage.
Then theirs the economy its far to intergrated to be seperated without parts of it collapsing for example the MOD north of the border. Ship building a lot of UK money has gone into preserving ship building on the clyde with political job making uncompetative prices and minimal production supported by the UK's budget if scotland became a forighn power why would london buy from them if they can get a better deal else where and the scottish goverment wouldn't be able to support it so it'd collapse without the cash for the carriers & type 26 leaving thousands of people jobless.
the Navy bases all its nuke subs in scotland which will be 7 astutes and 4 vanguards and all the assosiated crews, egineers, security and trident support. and the SNP are anti nuke and couldn't support that many boats so they go and have nasty effects on the local economy as the base closes. Same for the RAF look at the controversy when they wanted to close one of their bases in scotland and the fight to save it. if the english were to go south and the new SAF to take over they'd probably field a squadron or 2 of fast jets so a much smaller foot print than current levels.
IF they were to become indipendant all bets would be off at least 2 new goverments probably little regard for previous agreements less cash flow all round everything would be shaken up i imagine their'd be cuts across the board with the forces getting smaller and being split with demand for the best stuff. but who know the RN may finally get some decent off the shelf kit if the Clyde is suddenly in a forighn power.
BUT INDIPENDANCE FROM THE UK WOULD BE BAD FOR EVERYONE AS THE ECONOMY IS FAR TO INTERGRATED AND OUR INTERNATIONAL PRESANCE WOULD BE REDUCED.
 

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As someone pointed out in a paper yesterday, if scotland were to splt would they still be liable for thier share of the national deficit, some £77 billion?
 
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it would be funny if they split off into independance, that fat smarmy git is pinning his hopes on becoming an EU nation to fund the creation of a sell sustaining society, just as the whole of hte EU is poised on the brink of tanking


never mind the fact we will either ocupy scotland as a non hostile force (funny old thing) or be forced to use scottish and irish regiments to quell the uprising (history does love the jacobites) hopefully someone in westminster will just disolve the stupid regional assemblies there a collosal waste of cash and do absolutly **** all for anyone.

the SNP argu that its scotish rule for scotish people but there failing ot point out they still owe more than 10bill in local authority construction bonds, scotlands onl viable large sacle export is drugs via group4's medical grade drug growing complex, buckfast isnt produced in large enough quantities.

i dare say there is plenty of resent ment for the rule of westminster, the ammount of leeway the SNP have been given to spin bullshit to the masses unchecked over the last 10 years is unprecedented, a large majority of the porridge wogs clearly are illinformed and belive its westminsters fault theres been no real investments in infrastructure in the last 12 years, failing unilaterally to tell anyone that they squandered sucessive budgests on lavish official buildings and stealing there overspend from the maintenance and investment budgets for years to come.

then theres the banking problem, there isnt a single scottish bank that isnt owned by the taxpayer in part or full, they have no central bank and clearly the fat prick is relying on brussels to give him a constitution and pennies for his piggybank.

if scotland declares independance there are 2 options for them, get crushed as a rebel uprising by the rest of the uk or jump into the eu wihtin a month before there declared bankrupt
either way there fcuked as a nation if they vie stroingly enough.

i do agree that they should have local governance but it seemed ot work pretty damn well before the creation of the scottish assembley and far better before the stupid devolution idea.

then again regional assemblies and the much touted devolution were all part of the master plan for teleportation into the european federal state to ensure that each region got what it deserved in terms of governance and budgets, its never had any purpose in terms of getting better value for money its just all part of the wanton spending thats took place under labour for there successive parliments.
 
#18
My best mates in the Army where Jocks.
Samoan is making a power play and the best The English can do is ignore him.
Decent Jocks are 100% loyal to Scotland and the worst thing a Brit can do is wind them up and force them to defend the Homeland they love.

john
"scotland were to splt would they still be liable for thier share of the national deficit, some £77 billion?"

Mainly caused by one G Brown.
 
#19
My best mates in the Army where Jocks.
Samoan is making a power play and the best The English can do is ignore him.
Decent Jocks are 100% loyal to Scotland and the worst thing a Brit can do is wind them up and force them to defend the Homeland they love.

john
"scotland were to splt would they still be liable for thier share of the national deficit, some £77 billion?"

Mainly caused by one G Brown.
another sweaty sock, lets hope when the wall goes back up he's on the far side wiht all the starving millions in the formerly defnce subsidised scotland, who knows that film about locking everyone above the line in and letting them resort to canibalism maybe not so far off the mark of reality afterall.
 

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#20
As ever many people are not thinking this through :) If Scotland went independent and Wales followed suit, England would be left with Ulster as their partner. English complain about Scotland, just wait until the only MPs in the English parliament to contest English bills are Irish:) Should be fun.

Most Scots are just pissed off by constantly being told what to do/pay by what is perceived (rightly) as an English parliament at Westminster.

Devolution, with more powers to the Scottish parliament and perhaps a federal UK leaving the English parliament where it is, as an Assembly in the same manner as then
3 other countries and a national body , with powers to veto Assembly bills, set up outside London to oversee UK wide issues.

This would be a chance to be a real united Kingdom and not one with 3 countries pissed off at the other with that country being so blinkered as to not even know why the other 3 countries are so pissed off with them!!! :)
 
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