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An English man in lockdown in France

I'm not attempting to comment on 'what French people think'. Your attitude, however, doesn't do much to enhance the standing of your nation in my eyes.

If you cannot understand I expose a situation and not my personal point of view, there is not much I can do to help.

I still loath the RN but this is a different story.
 

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Fantassin said:
Attitudes change a bit at the moment, but from the top down. You hear more and more stories about bankers becoming bakers or traders becoming carpenters.

same in UK to a small extent ....the post-Covid world of work is going to be ....intriguing.
 
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The notion of "Culture générale" is very important in France. What can you talk about with your chums ? What book have you read recently ? What role is culture playing in your life ? Do you have a camper van ? Do you go to Tunisia on holiday ? That sort of things...it's a minefield...
 
It is not a set rule but in general, intellectual professions are more valued than manual workers. Money does not come into the equation.

Attitudes change a bit at the moment, but from the top down. You hear more and more stories about bankers becoming bakers or traders becoming carpenters.
Which yet again blows my mind.

A University professor is nothing more than an academic prostitute and depending on what they teach could be about as useful as a football bat.

A Snow plow driver or a road repair crew, whilst not glamorous are vital to keep I-80 open and thus commerce to the rest of the nation.

The perks of living in a sparsely populated area bigger than the UK would be lost on some people until you realise everybody counts.
 
If you cannot understand I expose a situation and not my personal point of view, there is not much I can do to help.

I still loath the RN but this is a different story.


If you cannot understand that my impression of you has nothing to do with politics, then there is not much I can do to help.
 
The notion of "Culture générale" is very important in France. What can you talk about with your chums ? What book have you read recently ? What role is culture playing in your life ? Do you have a camper van ? Do you go to Tunisia on holiday ? That sort of things...it's a minefield...
Junie B Jones well a series of books.
I am trying new whiskies and loadouts for the 6.5.
A van is useless.
Deer camp is preferred, who wants to spend vacation time with masses of other people...
 
Which yet again blows my mind.

A University professor is nothing more than an academic prostitute and depending on what they teach could be about as useful as a football bat.

A Snow plow driver or a road repair crew, whilst not glamorous are vital to keep I-80 open and thus commerce to the rest of the nation.

The perks of living in a sparsely populated area bigger than the UK would be lost on some people until you realise everybody counts.

This is called "Parisianisme", seeing most everything through the lens of how things are supposed to be done in Paris. It's of course less acute if you live in the middle of the Creuse or on the Larzac plateau !
 
Junie B Jones well a series of books.
I am trying new whiskies and loadouts for the 6.5.
A van is useless.
Deer camp is preferred, who wants to spend vacation time with masses of other people...

Interesting, you could fall into the "Chasse, pêche, Nature et tradition" category which actually is quite united, by its love of hunting which crosses the social divides.
 
And now back to the topic of us all being locked down for a second time.
This time at least we have some honesty and the end date, at present, has been announced.
Unlike the ever encroaching one from the first time around in spring.
All boozers and non-essential shops shut, so I predict a run on the DIY stores tomorrow and the home-brew shops.
Back to carrying the dated and timed bit of attestation paper in case you get stopped but it's all starting at midnight tomorrow.
And the finer points of all this will be announced tomorrow too.


Oh happy days.
 
This is called "Parisianisme", seeing most everything through the lens of how things are supposed to be done in Paris. It's of course less acute if you live in the middle of the Creuse or on the Larzac plateau !
Paris is well on it‘s way to be Europe’s first mega city, so not unsurprising.
For a country that needed centralisation to overcome its difficulties, could it be it’s ultimate weakness?
 
Interesting, you could fall into the "Chasse, pêche, Nature et tradition" category which actually is quite united, by its love of hunting which crosses the social divides.
I think my wife has me classified as the following.
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Hunting can be a very divided hobby, depending on weather one actually participates or like the super wealthy essentially hire a guide to do 90 percent of everything for them just to take a trophy home. But it separates residents from non residents pretty damn quickly.
 
Paris is well on it‘s way to be Europe’s first mega city, so not unsurprising.
For a country that needed centralisation to overcome its difficulties, could it be it’s ultimate weakness?

The Socialists launched the decentralization in 1981, it was one of their key programs. It has worked to a certain extent.

More than anything, it will be the living conditions that will change the way people consider Paris. At the moment, Paris is losing about 12,000 inhabitants a year.

The city itself is quite small. It's the suburbs that turn it into a large urban area of over 10 million people.
 
This is called "Parisianisme", seeing most everything through the lens of how things are supposed to be done in Paris. It's of course less acute if you live in the middle of the Creuse or on the Larzac plateau !
I’ve had comments barred from a couple of MSM sites for talking about the ‘75ers’.
I have also worked in the Cantal and now live in the Jura, just over the border from Haut Doubs.
As you say, attitudes are somewhat different in la France Profonde.
 
The Socialists launched the decentralization in 1981, it was one of their key programs. It has worked to a certain extent.

More than anything, it will be the living conditions that will cage the way people consider Paris. At the moment, Paris is losing about 12,000 inhabitants a year.
Do you know where they are going? An escape to the country, or elsewhere?
Just curious, most global demographic projections point to Paris as the biggest European growth. Already today we had Paris CDG behind Heathrow as busiest airhub in Europe.
 
And now back to the topic of us all being locked down for a second time.
This time at least we have some honesty and the end date, at present, has been announced.
Unlike the ever encroaching one from the first time around in spring.
All boozers and non-essential shops shut, so I predict a run on the DIY stores tomorrow and the home-brew shops.
Back to carrying the dated and timed bit of attestation paper in case you get stopped but it's all starting at midnight tomorrow.
And the finer points of all this will be announced tomorrow too.


Oh happy days.
Just accept that we are all doomed Harry and that every day is a bonus. That reminds me. I must get my 'The end of the world is nigh' placard out of the garage!
 
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Do you know where they are going? An escape to the country, or elsewhere?
Just curious, most global demographic projections point to Paris as the biggest European growth. Already today we had Paris CDG behind Heathrow as busiest airhub in Europe.

The countryside, hardly a house left for sale in our village after the summer.
Not just Parisians either, and these are places that have been for sale for 10 years or more are now being lived in again.
Of course the money from the sale will go towards paying the Maison de Retraite costs of the previous owners, after the state has taken their 60%.
Funnily enough the Germans are still not buying, or welcome, around these parts.
Every other nationality is represented though.

La France Profonde indeed.
Magnifique!
 
Do you know where they are going? An escape to the country, or elsewhere?
Just curious, most global demographic projections point to Paris as the biggest European growth. Already today we had Paris CDG behind Heathrow as busiest airhub in Europe.

Many follow the development of the TGV lines. Bordeaux has recently seen a large influx, with corresponding hike in real estate prices; others are going to Tours, Nantes (highly sought after) and even to Brest which, for years, was seen as a hole. You pay about 4,000 Euros per m2 in Brest instead of 10,000 to 15,000 in Paris...
 
It was a Arrse daily college moment for me to learn that the former party of De Gaulle , the RPR, is now simply known as ' Les Republicains'


And @fantassin , thank you for that first-hand view, precisely what I was after.



On a point of order, Mr Speaker, the term 'RN' over here - and particularly in a military environment - means only one thing.

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And it sure as hell isn't a right wing political party, no matter what readers of The Guardian may privately believe :)


Just to make sure: RN = in the context of this thread, Rassemblement National, the "new" name of le Pen's Front National. The "front" part was seen as too offensive by the most progressive members of the party...

Regarding "Les Républicains" being the heirs to de Gaulle's political legacies, it's what they advertise but in fact Le Général was very anti-party. He had to create one (RPF) after he left power after WW2 IOT to have his ideas made public, but after a while he lost interest in it and he kept on repeating that most of the problems France was facing were caused by political parties placing their interests before the interests of the nation.

de Gaulle had a famous sentence to characterize this situation; for him parties were cooking their "petite soupe sur son petit feu, dans sa petite marmite" (little soup, over their little fire, in their little saucepan) rather than see the general interest of the country.
 

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