An Apology

#1
For those of you who use this forum, I must apologise for inadvertently causing the ACF Faq thread to be locked. I would have apologised on the original thread but that has now been locked as a direct result of my post. I posted what I thought was inoffensive and valid comments on the thread but apparantly this was seen as 'sanctimonious drivel' and 'whinging'. My post was not intended to be a whinge but merely observations and it certainly wasn't meant to be 'sanctimonous'. Sorry that it appeared to be drivel. And further sorry that I took offence at the remark that I was a 'groomer' that was posted by another user and pm'd the moderators to have the remark removed. I appreciate that they have far better things to do.
 
#4
My missus was a brown owl in the girl guides, where to I post support for that particular youth club so that I can get torn asunder in such a dramatic way?
 
#5
ubuntu said:
My missus was a brown owl in the girl guides, where to I post support for that particular youth club so that I can get torn asunder in such a dramatic way?
I shouldn't unless you can accept the 'banter' that comes with it along with the poisonous pm's from the mentally deluded :roll:

Just do as I will from now on; only post in the NAAFI and offer no advice/criticism/genuine beliefs ... and under no circumstance be offended.
 

B_AND_T

MIA
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#6
k13eod said:
ubuntu said:
My missus was a brown owl in the girl guides, where to I post support for that particular youth club so that I can get torn asunder in such a dramatic way?
I shouldn't unless you can accept the 'banter' that comes with it along with the poisonous pm's from the mentally deluded :roll:

Just do as I will from now on; only post in the NAAFI and offer no advice/criticism/genuine beliefs ... and under no circumstance be offended.
I'm offended that you think I would be offended.

Fair play to you though.
 
#7
k13eod said:
For those of you who use this forum, I must apologise for inadvertently causing the ACF Faq thread to be locked. I would have apologised on the original thread but that has now been locked as a direct result of my post. I posted what I thought was inoffensive and valid comments on the thread but apparantly this was seen as 'sanctimonious drivel' and 'whinging'. My post was not intended to be a whinge but merely observations and it certainly wasn't meant to be 'sanctimonous'. Sorry that it appeared to be drivel. And further sorry that I took offence at the remark that I was a 'groomer' that was posted by another user and pm'd the moderators to have the remark removed. I appreciate that they have far better things to do.
If I look really, really hard I can just see your tongue poking through your cheek there.
 
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#8
k13eod said:
ubuntu said:
My missus was a brown owl in the girl guides, where to I post support for that particular youth club so that I can get torn asunder in such a dramatic way?
I shouldn't unless you can accept the 'banter' that comes with it along with the poisonous pm's from the mentally deluded :roll:

Just do as I will from now on; only post in the NAAFI and offer no advice/criticism/genuine beliefs ... and under no circumstance be offended.
Let's stick with the 'Brown owl' theme eh? Got any pictures?
 
#9
Biscuits_AB said:
k13eod said:
ubuntu said:
My missus was a brown owl in the girl guides, where to I post support for that particular youth club so that I can get torn asunder in such a dramatic way?
I shouldn't unless you can accept the 'banter' that comes with it along with the poisonous pm's from the mentally deluded :roll:

Just do as I will from now on; only post in the NAAFI and offer no advice/criticism/genuine beliefs ... and under no circumstance be offended.
Let's stick with the 'Brown owl' theme eh? Got any pictures?
Right, that's crayoning, why wont the mods step in and do something about this offensive stuff. To the hole, walt, coat, taxi, new keyboard needed. etc. etc.
 
#10
That said ... I do feel I have one last right to reply .... to the moderator who chose to lock the thread and chose to crayon remarks within my post, remarks intended to belittle me rather than add value.

It did rather amuse me as it reminded me of the officers who see fit to red pen the written work of SNCOs and WOs for the simple reason that they should do. Usually the type of officer to be seen wandering around camp with a Labrador which is four times more intelligent than themselves:

k13eod said:
Having read the first couple of pages of this thread I was a little bit wary of posting here. I know the thread was started a couple of years ago but it seems to have got well crayoned almost immediately ... why have the mods allowed this?
wooprat said:
because I have a day-job that keeps me busy. I don't have time to read and digest every post and ponder who may or may not take offence. The generic rules of moderation apply in terms of avoiding breaches of personal security (operational security is hardly an issue for the ACF or OTC) or posts that breach copywrite or are likely to land us in court for Libel, or posting pornographic or illegal matgerial. Beyond that I expect you to reach down, find a pair, and man it up and either let banter go over your heads or respond appropriately: and by that I mean stop taking it so personally!
Thanks for that explanation of what is required from a moderator. I do not recall pm-ing you to demand immediate action but rather politely requesting that the post should be removed. No doubt your busy day job was a slow office day yesterday as you seem to have had plenty of time to respond. As for reaching down and finding a pair, I already did and trust me they are big enough. As for taking it personally, I never did and I engage in banter as much as the next guy in the appropriate forums. Foolish of me to find being referred to as a ‘groomer’ on a cadet thread inappropriate.

k13eod said:
Is it the general feeling of the rest of the ARRSE community that the ACF is a) a joke organisation, b) a bunch of walts or c) a breeding ground for pedos?
wooprat said:
look at the prolific ACF posters and ask yourself why those that run the organisation fall quite distinctly into one of two categories: ex regs who generally don't take themselves seriously in their rank or position when dealing with grownups/real soldiers and the other type who think their MC should have come in the post with their ranks slides that instead of having "ACF" emblazoned on them have those intials as small as possible in subdued writing with a whole array of DZ flashes and red/sandy colured berets when the wearer in question may have once spent 5 minutes as a slop jockey attached to the Paras. The sub-grouping of that are the "I'm ACF and not a walt but I'm A Sgt/Capt/Whatever and I'm to be taken oh-so-fukcing seriously in that rank even though I'm a shit shoveller 3rd grade in real life" brigade who need a bit of attitude ajustment.
Personally I try not to generalise when dealing with people and don’t place them into narrow minded categories. I assume (from your later comments) that you place me in the second category. I can assure you that you are wrong and I shall be wearing a blue beret … I’ll save the sand coloured one for Remembrance shall I? Some of us may very well have a ‘shit shoveller third grade job’ when compared to your highly privileged occupation but at least we try to contribute.

k13eod said:
If so they should think again and perhaps have the gall to confront those who volunteer their time in person rather than hiding behind a keyboard and making pathetic, childish and immature comments ... read the rules BEFORE posting and you would know that there are appropriate forums for banter.
wooprat said:
Thanks uber-mod. Now if you wouldn't mind getting getting down off your soap box and winding your neck in we at ARRSE HQ would be grateful. As the mod for this forum I set the tone and apply the rules, not you. Read what I've said above and stop being so precious. If I see anything that transgresses the rules as I interpret them I will remove or edit it. I will not however answer to a baying crowd of 1 dissafected AI who has only just come off his initial course. Now stop crying sweetheart and dry your eyes it reeally isn't such a big deal is it? It's only the internet.
Obviously there is only the one uber-mod in this forum and I bow to your God-like prowess. I was unaware there really was an ARRSE HQ but well done on your staff appointment and ability to set the rules. I’ve wiped the tears Darling but trust me they are truly those of a crocodile. Still you do score 10/10 for these comments in the highly un-original category.

k13eod said:
As a former soldier I have been graded level 1 for training which means I can afford not to attend the very basic levels of military skills
wooprat said:
a former soldier excused on the very basic level of military skills? there's skill fgade and then there's functional uselessness.......
We have to see how functionally useless or not I might be. Not really for you to judge is it?

k13eod said:
But I shall still attend as many of the weekends as possible for the purposes of dusting down the grey cells and getting to know how things are done the cadet way.
wooprat said:
or claim as many MTDs as possible.
I was under the impression that there were only so many MTDs one can claim per year irrespective of turn out? Sorry to burst your bubble but not every one is as money motivated as you may think.

k13eod said:
I now can’t wait to get started and have been up in the attic sorting through bags of green stuff, polishing me old daisies and dusting down the burgan.
wooprat said:
sp:"Bergan" no wonder you've only been excused the most basic of the refresher
Oh dear, I made a spelling error … that would be a first for anyone on ARRSE wouldn’t it? Check your own comments as there are at least ten spelling mistakes without bothering to mention grammar.

k13eod said:
… even went off to a camping supplier yesterday to start to put together some exercise kit.
wooprat said:
keen aren't we? Whatever happened to issued kit only when under training. Will you be searching eBay for any Gucci item headed "SAS Commando Killling Pen Knife with SAS Para Cord attachment" I wonder?
Very keen but then again, you are such an expert that you might know that an AI is issued limited kit. Would you suggest that I deploy on a weekend in the field minus boots and sleeping bag, with nothing to cook on and nothing to eat it with? So you would run an exercise under training with issued kit only? I guess you have very little practical experience of training in the field.

k13eod said:
So, to all you doubters and knockers, keep it in the NAAFI and let this thread run as intended by Semper … a good tool to offer advice and, hopefully, recruit.
wooprat said:
I could always split the topic and post this in the Mike Golden thread where you might feel more comfortable....
Really? Mike Golden being a fool who failed training and then bigged himself up as a paratrooper. Please check my other posts and you might find that I have never claimed to have done anything in my 24 years service or 8 years outside that I never actually did.

wooprat said:
Edited by Woopert because I was not entirely impressed by the sanctimonious drivel contained above.

Thread temporarily locked so that people can digest some salient points: noteably man it up and stop gom,pfing every time you get a bit of "banter" that you feel is not as respectful as you think it ought to be. There's none of this whinging anywhere else on the site.
Of course temporarily locked actually refers to locked for long enough for anyone else to see just how clever you’ve been. None of this whinging elsewhere? You need to look in some of the other threads occasionally ... oh I forgot … your too busy. A shame that you couldn’t just act like a moderator and delete the post you didn’t like or as a member add your comments in a post rather than trying to belittle.

I imagine this thread now has a life expectancy of less than two minutes before it is deleted, sent to the hole or crayoned on and locked.
 
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k13eod said:
Personally I try not to generalise when dealing with people and don’t place them into narrow minded categories.
Yes you do......

k13eod said:
I shouldn't unless you can accept the 'banter' that comes with it along with the poisonous pm's from the mentally deluded
 
#14
Biscuits_AB said:
Yeah, yeah, whatever Hoppy...now have you got any photo's of 'Brown Owl' or not?
BTW ... I don't take offence at those mocking my disability. I can hide my disability by wearing trousers. How do you feel about having to hide yours everyday with a mask?
 
#16
ubuntu said:
That's some fine deconstructive analysis right there.
One might then go on to wonder whether said deconstructive analyst has anything better to do during the day...
 
#17
Flashman07 said:
ubuntu said:
That's some fine deconstructive analysis right there.
One might then go on to wonder whether said deconstructive analyst has anything better to do during the day...
Apart from some deconstructive analysis? I could also poke fun at pretentious cnuts who have Latin in their signature blocks I suppose...................
 
#18
K13: the reason you get so much stick is because, like Semper, you just take the whole thing a little too seriously. Now you've signed up to give the chavs of today something to do in your spare time. Fantastic! I applaud it, I genuinely do. However please don't think it makes you imune from winding people up. Yes, 5A is a bit of a cnut for crayoning all over the thread, and yes I get sick of deleting "groomer" posts off this forum, but he and those of his like mind (and God knnows what goes through it sometimes, his arrse most likely) tend to leave the other blokes alone. Why? Because they aren't knobbers who take themselves seriously the way you do.

now, in your PM to me you threw your dolly out of the pram and demanded that if I wasn't going to moderate to your exacting standards we should make this site over 18s only. You kind of missed the point that I reiterated quite simply:

The rules on this forum are quite simple. So simple in fact, they've been on display since 2005!

1. no identifying individuals by name or by appointment
2. no posting pornography or offensive links
3. I'll take a view on content and edit or delete where I feel the post may expose ARRSE to potential suits for libel
4. operational security isn't so much of an issue for the ACF, but where an issue related to security is mentioned and where not in the public domain I'll edit or delete as appropriate. maninBlack has the final say in any child protection related matters.

Beyond that, you guys are on your own to fight your own battles.

In fact, I seem to recall summarising that in my comments on your post.

The other point that I made to you both publicly and in PM is moderation is exactly that. It isn't censorship or deleting or editing posts you don't like the content of, or persecuting people you don't like, or running to your rescue if you feel you are being picked on. You are an adult, you can choose to ignore people or respond as you like, but don't expect me to take sides in your squabbles. As I also said to you, if you don't like it, the internet is a big place so please feel free to go elsewhere and use another site, or start your own. you clearly have a problem with the tone of the forum and the way it is managed, so the solution is quite simple: log off and don't come back.
 
#19
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Flashman07 said:
ubuntu said:
That's some fine deconstructive analysis right there.
One might then go on to wonder whether said deconstructive analyst has anything better to do during the day...
Only pay my tax, submit an invoice and walk the dogs ... all done now so I can really do what I want.

So like you I post on here ... probably about a dozen post in the last 24 hours ... same as you!
 

B_AND_T

MIA
Book Reviewer
#20
FiveAlpha said:
Flashman07 said:
ubuntu said:
That's some fine deconstructive analysis right there.
One might then go on to wonder whether said deconstructive analyst has anything better to do during the day...
Apart from some deconstructive analysis? I could also poke fun at pretentious cnuts who have Latin in their signature blocks I suppose...................
You wouldn't dare.
 
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